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Aestu · **Posted:** Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:26 am

Jubbergun wrote:

You've already earned a degree, go get a commission and serve a few years in the military. You don't even need to do anything dangerous.

Carving this bit out because I want to know.

Can I actually do this with a BA?

Spacehunter · **Posted:** Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:09 am

I have no problem with anyone involved in this discussion, and no real interest in it, but:

Aestu wrote:

In reality you're just projecting your own Palin-like sex appeal-driven overly favorable impression of her.

I love this quote so much.

Aestu · **Posted:** Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:23 pm

I'd still like an answer to my question.

Mns · **Posted:** Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:37 pm

I'm not reading this thread. I got up to the third post where Aestu said "I've said everything I wanted to" and then I looked at the page count. Is there anything redeeming about this thread?

Spoiler (highlight to view):

I'm only gonna read posts from mods.

Krizen · **Posted:** Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:13 am

Krizen · **Posted:** Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:16 am

Aestu wrote:

What you wrote did actually make me very angry.

I lol'd

Krizen · **Posted:** Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:17 am

AESTU IS ANGRY EVERYONE RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Krizen · **Posted:** Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:18 am

Necrachilles · **Posted:** Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:27 am

Holy fuck it's Krizen. Why do I feel like I haven't seen you in forever? Maybe it's just your new avatar.

Edit: Double checked. Not crazy, haven't see you in forever. I miss your scent man. I miss it real deep like.

Aestu · **Posted:** Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:06 am

I'm asking again, Jubber.

Was that just empty rhetoric, making up the facts as you go along, or is it actually the case that one can get a commission with only a BA?

Jubbergun · **Posted:** Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:50 pm

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningt ... ing_up.htm

Scroll down to "Commissioning Options." This page seems to jive with what I remember about how these things are done.

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Jubber

Aestu · **Posted:** Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:02 pm

Aw shit, you mean even a loser like me could get paid to push people around? I gotta go talk to the recruiters. I know not sign anything till I sleep on it and talk to my Fubros... ty!

Quote:

It's often a good idea to bring a parent or relative (or better yet, someone who has served in the military) with you for your first visit.

Hmm, yes. Anyone in or near Boston interested? I'll buy you dinner at the restaurant of your choosing...(and maybe pay for your travel expense if applicable)...

Jubbergun · **Posted:** Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:48 pm

NP...just don't think of it as pushing people around. Think of it as providing guidance for those who lack it and dearly need it.

Honestly, if you are commissioned, every one of your subordinates become your responsibility. You're supposed to be looking out for their best interest and helping them realize and achieve their fullest potential. Like I said, if you do that, it's going to require that you listen to the most senior enlisted guy in your division. They're generally not a useless waste-of-space. You're also well-served not offering your opinion unless its solicited. Those are the only two things I think you'll have a problem with if you join as an officer.

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Jubber

Aestu · **Posted:** Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:11 pm

Jubbergun wrote:

Honestly, if you are commissioned, every one of your subordinates become your responsibility. You're supposed to be looking out for their best interest and helping them realize and achieve their fullest potential.

In all seriousness I hear this same nonsense word for word from those overstuffed academics you hate so much, and it's every bit as much a pompous, self-serving hypocrisy and an excuse to...push people around...as with the military.

And as with people on military welfare, those academics are really only interested in pumping up their affiliation for the sake of how the supposed infallibility of that affiliation reflects on them personally.

The only constant is self-serving behavior. I'm just more honest about my motives.

Anyway, the offer stands. Anyone interested in coming to the recruiter with me, free lunch, hang out, etc.

As it stands though I'm looking at just going through with the MA in Accounting then joining up after it's done, because apparently having an MA dramatically improves mobility. I am just concerned they may not want to recruit someone who is 30, even if they do have an MA.

Jubbergun · **Posted:** Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:52 am

Aestu wrote:

In all seriousness I hear this same nonsense word for word from those overstuffed academics you hate so much, and it's every bit as much a pompous, self-serving hypocrisy and an excuse to...push people around...as with the military.

That's true, but I find it's more a function of people lapsing into cynicism and failing to live up to the ideal. You can easily justify any behavior by saying 'everyone else is doing it,' especially if everyone else really is doing it. I saw more than a few of the kind of people you're talking about in the military, but I also saw the ones in the minority that took those ideals seriously. I can't believe you haven't met an academic somewhere along the line who lived up to those same ideals.

You can't build an organization if you're not preparing the people who serve under you to eventually take the next step toward your position. That's really what that ideal is about in the long run.

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Jubber

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