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But were you more mature at 21 than you were at 18?

Probably. Is it relevant?

"More mature" doesn't necessarily imply that I wasn't mature enough before then to make decisions about sex.

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Shuruppak Yuratuhl
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Certainly not. But you're not an idiot, and probably were mature beyond your years when you made those decisions anyway.


The point is though, an 18 or 21 year old is much more mature (mentally) than a 16 year old. Given that the average kid is pretty dumb and immature anyway, I think a large % of kids aren't mature enough when they start having sex.

Now what can be done about this? Not much - and obviously abstinence isn't the answer. I think stronger emotional support systems, discussions that it's okay to be a virgin until you're really ready etc can help. The fact that sex is so taboo in our society exacerbates the problem, I think.


Bottom line, physical maturity and emotional/mental maturity are two completely different things...I'm not convinced most 16 year olds have enough mental/emotional maturity for sex. We'll just have to agree to disagree there.

I don't think there's less mental or emotional maturity involved when a pair of 16-year-olds who have been dating and think they're in love want to have sex (consent, relationship, protection) than there is when a pair of 25-year-olds have a one-night-stand.

If anything, the 16-year-olds are the ones doing it "right" so to speak.

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Shuruppak Yuratuhl
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and if the worst should happen, the 25 year olds should be better equipped to handle the decisions regarding a child. abortion, adoption, raising the kid, etc, than a 16 year old.

He said protection.

Banking on things happening that have an incredibly low chance isn't how decisions are to be made (inb4 some extreme example of protecting against 'the worst'). It is also no way to support an argument (is it a fallacy? I forget most of my philosophy 101). The 16 year olds are most definitely doing it right in the aforementioned scenario. If anything, I was really scare NOT to use protection when I was that young because sex ed pretty much implied that no wrapping = baby every time. Of course, now that I know it's pretty hard (rare? what's the correct word here?) to impregnate a woman, protection is no longer the first thing I worry about.

ADDENDUM: And you conservatives harp on about getting rid of sex ed in schools.... le sigh, call me nuts but a faltering economy is nowhere NEAR enough of a reason for me to vote any yahoo republican into office..

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I realize he said protection. That doesn't make my points any less accurate.

Sex IS a physical act but it has consequences beyond the physical. I knew a kid that killed himself at 17 because some bitch didn't want to keep sleeping with him(in her defense he was worthless). Yes, you may have been ready, but many others weren't.

To each their own, of course, and if all parents were good parents there would be fewer problems in the world, but when it comes to sex, I generally preach over-caution for the younger people I know, at least until they get a bit older and know better through experience or observation.

I was drawing attention to the difference between casual, socially acceptable sex (the one-night-stand) and the supposedly more immature sex between consenting minors in a relationship.

The second is clearly more reasoned and emotionally invested, but everyone's completely okay with the first.

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Shuruppak Yuratuhl
Slaad Shrpk Breizh

Unfortunately, the numbers don't support your argument.

http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/u ... pregnancy/

It is true that the risk of pregnancy from any single event is fairly low (inb4 Todd Akin rape defense mechanisms), but there is a staggering amount of unintended pregnancies in this country.

"Unintended" here means any unwanted pregnancy, yes? The fact that someone wants sex and doesn't want to wrap up or take a pill does not mean the pregnancy is a desired one. Skewed numbers perhaps?

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what?

I was trying to say that those numbers may be a bit skewed since "unintended pregnancies" includes those that didn't involve any protection use, ie stupid people. What I was referring to as "the worst" in the previous post was contraception failure.

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maybe it didn't, according to the criteria of the survey.

regardless, this thread is considerably shittier than it was yesterday. Why?

Because I haven't posted in a while.






















Nah nvm, it's still pretty shitty.