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Haha I'm definitely no expert on physics, I was just trying to recall what I'd learned in physics 1 and 2. God only knows why they stuff bloody physics into a premed program.. right there with biochem and molecular genetics because they're so similar!

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You said you did not understand the point or appeal of this stunt. It doesn't matter if you get the appeal, because there are plenty of people who do see the appeal in this. That's why Red Bull's logo is plastered all over this, that's why people are talking about it, and that's why people were following the live stream.

After reading a bit more, Bumgartner seems to be genuinely interested in this for the science, and the entire program is billed as a 'scientific experiment' saying something about the need to know how human bodies will do from ejections from even higher elevations than before. Red Bull is the main sponsor (because this is what they like to put their names on), but there are other aerospace and communication companies that are working on this project. So, there's the reason. FOR SCIENCE!


Decades ago, Kittinger was working for the Air Force and they were studying the effects of high altitude ejections. Part of the study, Kittinger ascended as high as he could possibly go with the balloons they had, and he jumped with a space suit. Like I mentioned earlier, he hit near 1000km/h on his fall, but that wasn't fast enough to break the sound barrier. That wasn't even his goal, I don't think. He was up there for research, not setting records. Why wasn't it done decades ago? Who knows? Maybe there wasn't enough funding for that Air Force program, or maybe they had all the data they needed from the previous experiments, or they simply couldn't reach the altitude needed? Kittinger said that, "In my case, I was very close to super sonic. In Felix's jump, he will be super sonic. It'll be a very unique experience. That four miles higher that he's going to be will give him the lack of density that will allow him to go faster than we could go on my jump."

Also, this isn't solely Red Bull's experiment.


Maybe because it's easier to strap more thrusters onto an expertly crafted and aerodynamic air frame than it is to drop people from the stratosphere and let gravity do the rest?

No argument there, but it's still really dumb and pointless.



Air Force run out of money? lol. If the knowledge were actionable the experiment would have already been done by NASA or Chairforce.



That doesn't sound easier...

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I don't care about anything here considering aestu being aestu, but come on now. What could be more simple than dropping something from some altitude?

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Breaking the sound barrier while traveling horizontally was significantly easier than "dropping something from up high" for a handful of reasons.

By way of clarification, terminal velocity is nowhere near the sound barrier. Not even a little bit close. Nobody was arguing that, but it probably bears pointing out.

Anyway, we broke the sound barrier in 1947, using an XS-1 Rocket Plane. The altitude record at that time was 17 km. Take into account acceleration times, and the pilot of a simple drop (pilot flying straight down) wouldn't be able to recover from his dive in time to not crash once he'd broken the barrier, if he broke it at all over the paltry distance that is 17 km. The XS-1 was already dropped from the bomb bay of a larger aircraft because it had only 5 minutes of powered flight time (weight is a huge consideration, give it just enough fuel to do the deed), so clearly the thought of doing a simple drop had occurred to the aeronautical engineers on the project. They chose horizontal flight because it was the only sensible option, not because they were obtuse. We were good at science in the 40s.

I recognize full well that it's not 1947 anymore and this guy's coming from much higher altitudes, so the explanation doesn't necessarily extend to him. But that's the reason we broke the sound barrier by flying sideways and not down.

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I dunno homie. Someone isn't as easy as something. The guy that holds the record lost consciousness once and went into a spin at 120rpm, generating about 20g of force on his body. Another time, there was an equipment failure that caused his hand to swell because of the pressure differences. The best people could do, in the past, is to strap themselves to weather balloons, and those do 100,000ft. at best. This guy wanted to go several miles higher, so they needed new equipment to take him safely to those heights.

Deploying the man from a rocket would put an unwanted velocity on him, and jettisoning from one of the few fixed wing aircraft would, again, be bad for the experiment and dangerous to the pilots. What other ways ate there?

Climb into a space capsule, because it adds up to exactly the same thing, which is a self-contained, ultra-aerodynamic personal environment equipped with life support.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

So you think he should climb into a space capsule?

Why bother?

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

No one gives a shit that you don't give a shit.

I don't give a shit that you don't give a shit that I don't give a shit. The entire thing is shit regardless of who gives a shit about whatever shit or people's opinions about others giving a shit about their opinions on shit.

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Nihilism is a copout.

The "I didn't make this thread so it must be shit and here is why" trail continues

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if any of you nerds are awake, it's going on now.

Wow I've been awake for two and a half hours now.

Entirely too fast.

Ah, thanks for the reminder. I missed take off cause I was out with the family. Hopefully I can get Chase to take a nap so I can check out streams.