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 Post subject: Re: The Average American Male
PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:44 am  
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Battletard wrote:
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Step 1: Avoid Asian women

1. das races
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Don't PC on me, man. There are differences between races. It's a fact of life.

If you doubt this, watch more porn with Asian male actors.

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depo shot for sure, but no birth control is 100%.


I honestly don't believe this. Depa is probably very unreliable, but pills and/or IUD? Come on.

Women, in general, have great difficulty telling the truth. Certainly not about something as important to them as birth control and whether they took it or not. The "error rate" is false reporting, proof being, no attempt has been made to calculate false reports into the legitimate figures, despite the fact that it would be scientifically prudent to do so.

Further proof. One of the contraindications for birth control pills is antibiotics. Being on antibiotics increases the error rate for the pills, based on statistical correlation. But why? Antibiotics have no interaction with pills.

Except that...the same women who are irresponsible enough to have unprotected sex with so many sleazeballs a month, are the same ones who are too irresponsible to take pills. They have sex with other lowlifes, contract chlamydia, show up at the clinic seeking treatment, get handed antibiotics and birth control pills, take neither, then come back pregnant.

Because it can't very well be said, "problem: you're a dumb slut, solution: stop being a dumb slut," instead the self-reporting goes down in the books and the statistical correlation is born. Closely linked is the whole slutwalk thing and trying to whitewash the connection between irresponsible sexual behavior and being just plain irresponsible.

Anyway, I personally don't like condoms either, especially since I have the same issues Mayo does. (Two individuals are insufficient to draw a pattern, obviously, but I honestly wonder if it's a Jewish thing, especially since selective pressure would seem to apply).

The problem is made substantially worse by the fact I masturbate very aggressively, which perceptibly reduces sensitivity, and I've been reliant on masturbating much longer than most men, because for many years I was very awkward and turned down many girls who were more than eager to have sex with me based on my uncommon - and unlikely - appeal. I still deeply regret this, and think about it way more than I should. However, I am man enough to admit it over the internet, or even in person, if you asked. While it's likely that a significant amount of sensation is permanently lost, especially since I used to bleed but no longer do (calluses), it remains my hope that later in life I can transition to using hired women and thereby allow the tissue to recover somewhat. And there is the upside that women don't have cause to complain about me getting off too quickly - surprisingly, their complaint is usually the opposite. Which works for me.

Beautiful irony: the more reluctant a girl is to not use a condom, the more likely you can trust her without it. The best rule of thumb is to judge if the girl feels she has something to lose by getting knocked up. If she is crazy or desperate, don't dare.

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There already is.


I refuse to take male birth control, now or ever, because I don't trust it to not do lasting damage. The male sex organ is much more delicate than the female one (despite the disagreeable nature of the former), and tinkering with it tends to be much more likely to cause cessation of function.

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One of my best friends told me that he exclusively uses the pull out method. I simply said "enjoy your kids". He's a Computer Engineer, by the way.


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 Post subject: Re: The Average American Male
PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:52 am  
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Antibiotics don't interact directly with pills, but they can cause a number of problems in regards to enterohepatic circulation. Most commonly, they decrease intestinal flora that allow the hormones to be absorbed. Some also cause diarrhea, which can cause birth control to be expelled before they are able to be fully absorbed. I am not sure about other types of contraceptive methods, but I'd assume there might be a problem with vaginal birth control as well. That's just a guess though.


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 Post subject: Re: The Average American Male
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Refusal of use does not make it non existent.


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 Post subject: Re: The Average American Male
PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:30 pm  
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Aestu wrote:
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Step 1: Avoid Asian women

1. das races
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Don't PC on me, man. There are differences between races. It's a fact of life.

If you doubt this, watch more porn with Asian male actors.

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I'm not, I'm just kidding. I acknowledge those differences exist..the way I wrote it was to indicate facetiousness on my part. I was doing this thing with this azn gurl for a while, and without intending to brag, I am well beyond average and she was all about it..but yeah, fallacy of anecdotal evidence so meh.


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 Post subject: Re: The Average American Male
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One of my best friends told me that he exclusively uses the pull out method. I simply said "enjoy your kids". He's a Computer Engineer, by the way.


lolthis

Actually they did a study and found that the pullout method is almost as effective as condoms (like 2% failure rate vs 4% *when done correctly*). Most guys just suck at it and/or much like birth control statistics, lie about it and say they did.


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 Post subject: Re: The Average American Male
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Necrachilles wrote:
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One of my best friends told me that he exclusively uses the pull out method. I simply said "enjoy your kids". He's a Computer Engineer, by the way.


lolthis

Actually they did a study and found that the pullout method is almost as effective as condoms (like 2% failure rate vs 4% *when done correctly*). Most guys just suck at it and/or much like birth control statistics, lie about it and say they did.


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 Post subject: Re: The Average American Male
PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:18 pm  
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Meowth wrote:
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One of my best friends told me that he exclusively uses the pull out method. I simply said "enjoy your kids". He's a Computer Engineer, by the way.


lolthis

Actually they did a study and found that the pullout method is almost as effective as condoms (like 2% failure rate vs 4% *when done correctly*). Most guys just suck at it and/or much like birth control statistics, lie about it and say they did.


lolwut

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Economy/se ... id=7688558

This is one article referencing it I think

in before "lol dats bs"


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 Post subject: Re: The Average American Male
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Its still twice as likely to fail as rubbers and that's if you graduate from the school of pulling out, apparently.

Its not like rubbers are expensive, especially compared to a kid. Why risk it?


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 Post subject: Re: The Average American Male
PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:39 pm  
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My friend has been using the pull out method on his girl for years before she was even on BC and he didn't get her preggo. I think the fail rate comes from the fail like you said and just being too caught up in the moment and from not pissing before going for the second round. Reminds me of that scene in the Christmas harold and Kumar when kumar's girl tells him she's pregnant and he was like some may have got through, that's all it takes?

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 Post subject: Re: The Average American Male
PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:40 pm  
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Also, I'm telling you get some spit on your dick the enzymes fuck up any sperm there if not killing it

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 Post subject: Re: The Average American Male
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Sperm tastes bitter and is unpleasant for women to swallow because it is strongly acidic. Sperm is acidic because it's intended to convey its payload of homunculi into a woman's vagina. The interior of the vagina is also strongly acidic, so it is necessary for sperm to have a similar pH in order to survive. A woman's vagina has low pH and a lot of powerful enzymes for the same reason spit does: to break down any foreign organisms that might enter the vagina, threatening the organ or any current human residents.

If the enzymes and acidity of the vag don't kill sperm, your spittle certainly won't.

The purpose of the impulse to urinate after ejaculation is mostly to clean out reflux from the system and try to prevent infection/discomfort. It's not very effective, but it's better than nothing.

Pull-out is one of those things that most people think they are good at and almost all are wrong. Your friend might be good at it; he might also be getting lucky, or he may be incompatible with the woman - many people are unable to make babies together but both are able to make babies with other people.

By compensating for personal bias, one can see it is unwise to bank on pull-out. After all, basically everyone has a bunch of friends who thought the same thing, it was fine, and were proven wrong by experience. It's conceit and folly to think one can beat the odds.

If you're using pull-out, you're stupid. Period.


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 Post subject: Re: The Average American Male
PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:07 am  
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Aestu wrote:
If you're using pull-out, you're stupid. Period.


This.



And it's one reason why we have so many unwanted pregnancies and morons running around.


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 Post subject: Re: The Average American Male
PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:47 pm  
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Aestu wrote:
Pull-out is one of those things that most people think they are good at and almost all are wrong. Your friend might be good at it; he might also be getting lucky, or he may be incompatible with the woman - many people are unable to make babies together but both are able to make babies with other people.

By compensating for personal bias, one can see it is unwise to bank on pull-out. After all, basically everyone has a bunch of friends who thought the same thing, it was fine, and were proven wrong by experience. It's conceit and folly to think one can beat the odds.

If you're using pull-out, you're stupid. Period.

I don't personally use the pullout method but everything you said could be said about condoms and other birthcontrol. It's all a matter of luck at the end of the day. Person A could use the pullout method and not get a girl pregnant after 100 times while person B could use condoms and get a girl pregnant 3 times out of 100. Person C could cum inside everytime and not get a girl pregnant after 500 times. Pregnancy in itself isn't 100%. There's like a max of 25-30% for a girl to get pregnant and that's for a very small window (which you could play around or during depending on your goals). It's all luck.

You say everyone has friends who thought the same thing, but do you KNOW that they pulled out correctly? Or did the heat of the moment consume them? Are people using condoms really getting pregnant or are people who are getting pregnant just saying they used a condom so they come off as less dumb?

At the end of the day I prefer condoms (or other methods of birthcontrol) because that's an extra 2-5% chance of failing that I don't want. Using two forms of birthcontrol is optimal I think.

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If you're using pull-out, you're stupid. Period.


This.



And it's one reason why we have so many unwanted pregnancies and morons running around.

The reason we have so many unwanted pregnancies running around is because dudes like to nut in a girl, with or without a condom and give no forethought to the matter and girls can't keep their legs closed and also don't enforce some sort of birthcontrol. The real root of it could be seen as uppity parents not wanting sex ed being taught to their kids in school and/or having birthcontrol being provided to them while at the same time not willing to teach thier kids themselves. Taking the whole "My child is an angel*" stance. So many parents out there flat out refuse to get their daughters birthcontrol and then act surprised when they find out they're having sex and/or pregnant.

To kind of refine my point, some reasons we have so many unwanted pregnancies are:
Condoms breaking
Condoms slipping
Contraceptives failing
Forgetting to take the pill
Ejaculating inside
Pulling out too late
Pulling out in general
Anal Sex (where there's a will there's a way)
Lots of other crazy shit.

Fact is, pull out method isn't as good or suggested because most guys just suck at it and there's no safety net. With condoms, as long as you put it on you're typically good to go.


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 Post subject: Re: The Average American Male
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Not really. Condoms are 100% reliable if used properly. The pullout method is inherently error-prone.

If you aren't at risk at failing, then you aren't enjoying sex enough.


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 Post subject: Re: The Average American Male
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98%.

Still, the birth control pill or shot or implant or nuva ring + condoms is about as close to 100% as youll get.

That, + almost always finishing in her mouth(TMI?), my ex never got pregnant.


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