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 Post subject: People are so intolerant
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:42 am  
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 Post subject: Re: People are so intolerant
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:52 am  
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So, if I think I'm a woman that was mistakenly born with a penis and high levels of testosterone then I can walk into a woman's locker room without getting in trouble?

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But according to parents, the fact that the student has exposed her male genitalia, in one instance in the sauna, is cause for concern.


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 Post subject: Re: People are so intolerant
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:16 am  
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i'm all about equality and you can be whatever gender you want, but a 45 year old woman waving their dick around in a sauna with kids around is not cool. if she's 45 she knows perfectly well that she may be a woman trapped in a man's body, but she has a dick, and can't be letting little kids see it. that could be traumatizing to kids who don't understand.


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 Post subject: Re: People are so intolerant
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:23 am  
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I'm pretty sure this man is more confused than any kids that might be in the sauna, but yeah, it might make for a bad experience to have kids exposed to that.

Out of curiosity, does anyone here actually consider being a man (or woman) a significant part of their identity? I have never once in my life thought "wow, I can feel my innate manness right now." I follow society's general rules (like wearing pants instead of skirts) just to avoid causing drama, but I've never felt like any of that ever reflected on who I am as a person.


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 Post subject: Re: People are so intolerant
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:55 am  
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 Post subject: Re: People are so intolerant
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:59 am  
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Alopex wrote:
Out of curiosity, does anyone here actually consider being a man (or woman) a significant part of their identity? I have never once in my life thought "wow, I can feel my innate manness right now." I follow society's general rules (like wearing pants instead of skirts) just to avoid causing drama, but I've never felt like any of that ever reflected on who I am as a person.


I don't think it's so obvious as "I can feel my innate manness" -- a lot of it can be subtle. I know I've felt solidarity when I'm hanigng out with my buddies watching football and drinking beers. When we talk about banging chicks. Even on this very board, we've had "manly" discussions of beer, sec, why Jezebel is evil, etc. so in that sense...yeah.

Whether you actively think about it or not, your gender is a significant part of your identity. It helps to shape your worldview. Were you ever in a fraternity? Or some kind of men's society? I was in one, I also went to an all-boys school in high school, so being a man is DEFINITELY a part of my identity...I don't see how it couldn't be at all for someone, as you contend.


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Beards. Makes me feel like a man, and awesome.


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 Post subject: Re: People are so intolerant
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:33 am  
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So you're neuter?


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 Post subject: Re: People are so intolerant
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:52 am  
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Why do people willingly use locker rooms?


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 Post subject: Re: People are so intolerant
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:56 am  
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I think this guy knows it's bullshit and is making a point of showing how stupid and impractical and contrary to common-sense this all is.

Whether he's doing it based on principle or because he wants to look at nekkid chicks, I support his efforts 100%.

I'm doing my part too. Whenever a form asks me my race and gender, I put down black female.

Alopex wrote:
Out of curiosity, does anyone here actually consider being a man (or woman) a significant part of their identity?


Women do, men don't, and that's a major difference between them.

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 Post subject: Re: People are so intolerant
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:03 pm  
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Aestu wrote:
Whether he's doing it based on principle or because he wants to look at nekkid chicks, I support his efforts 100%.

Aestu supports...
* underage girls looking at older middle-aged men's dicks
* older middle-aged men looking at young, naked teenage girls
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 Post subject: People are so intolerant
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:03 pm  
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Don't be a dick to people who are different than you just because they are different than you.

Be fucking reasonable if you are different beyond the extent that is generally considered the norm.



The only two fucking rules society needs for tolerance/intolerance.


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 Post subject: Re: People are so intolerant
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:09 pm  
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Aestu wrote:
Alopex wrote:
Out of curiosity, does anyone here actually consider being a man (or woman) a significant part of their identity?


Women do, men do too but often pretend like they don't, and that's a major difference between them.


Fixed that one for you.

To say that your gender is not a part of your identity is just tomfoolery.

Now, I know you're going to argue with me and give me all these absurd reasons why your gender is not a part of your identity...but you'll be blowing smoke.



What is the first question asked when you find out someone is pregnant?

"Is it a boy or a girl?"

Why do we ask that question?


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 Post subject: Re: People are so intolerant
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:15 pm  
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Azelma wrote:
What is the first question asked when you find out someone is pregnant?

"Is it a boy or a girl?"

Why do we ask that question?

So you can laugh at them when they say girl


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 Post subject: Re: People are so intolerant
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Battletard wrote:
Don't be a dick to people who are different than you just because they are different than you.
Be fucking reasonable if you are different beyond the extent that is generally considered the norm.
The only two fucking rules society needs for tolerance/intolerance.


I'm not taking your slice of the pie because I am a dick, I am taking it because I have a right to it.

Or am I wrong?


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 Post subject: Re: People are so intolerant
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:57 pm  
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Azelma wrote:
To say that your gender is not a part of your identity is just tomfoolery.
Now, I know you're going to argue with me and give me all these absurd reasons why your gender is not a part of your identity...but you'll be blowing smoke.
What is the first question asked when you find out someone is pregnant?
"Is it a boy or a girl?"
Why do we ask that question?


It is a part, but a much bigger part for women. Women talk about themselves as being women and seek to act in ways predicated on being a woman.

Ask a man or a woman about themselves, and the man will talk more about his values, personal history, etc, than a woman. Not for nothing do women consider being seen as beautiful important in a way men don't, and amusingly enough feminists identify with the color pink, flowers, and trappings of femininity such as purses even as they insist they don't want to be shackled by their gender.

We ask that question because - you're right, it's fundamental. But it drives home the absurdity of this ultra-liberal BS that thinks gender is a social construct. We aren't asking what gender the baby thinks it is.

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Aestu wrote:
Whether he's doing it based on principle or because he wants to look at nekkid chicks, I support his efforts 100%.

Aestu supports...
* underage girls looking at older middle-aged men's dicks
* older middle-aged men looking at young, naked teenage girls


Is that what I support? Or is that what those who would support these crazy laws support?


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