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 Post subject: Re: O-H-I-O
PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:25 pm  
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If you go by the popular vote, most of those states are differing shades of purple.

Obama still won the popular vote by a couple million Obama Zombies.

Its alright though, I'd probably be making up fantasy scenarios where my candidate would've looked closer to a win if I lost too.


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 Post subject: Re: O-H-I-O
PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:33 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
But let's label everyone in a red state as an ignorant racist anyway, because thats very open minded and progressive of us.


We try to help them, but it's hard. No, really.


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 Post subject: Re: O-H-I-O
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It's easier to believe it's a parody than actual life.

Funny enough, growing up I kept a collection of John Birch Society magazines on a shelf in my room: just to remind that there really are people that nutty here in America. A lot of them.

and lol @ Israel/Italy/Switzerland being "libertarian"


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 Post subject: Re: O-H-I-O
PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:45 pm  
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Mns wrote:
Usdk wrote:
If you go by the popular vote, most of those states are differing shades of purple.

Obama still won the popular vote by a couple million Obama Zombies.

Its alright though, I'd probably be making up fantasy scenarios where my candidate would've looked closer to a win if I lost too.


I'm saying that coloring the entire south as a bunch of racist rednecks who hate black people is a little disingenous when almost 50% of them(in my state) voted for obama.


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 Post subject: Re: O-H-I-O
PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:00 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
Mns wrote:
Usdk wrote:
If you go by the popular vote, most of those states are differing shades of purple.

Obama still won the popular vote by a couple million Obama Zombies.

Its alright though, I'd probably be making up fantasy scenarios where my candidate would've looked closer to a win if I lost too.


I'm saying that coloring the entire south as a bunch of racist rednecks who hate black people is a little disingenous when almost 50% of them(in my state) voted for obama.


I don;t think I colored everyone in the south as a bunch of racist rednecks. What I WAS saying, was that it is INTERESTING that almost all of the Southern States seem to be going for a republican candidate, and that the country is still very much divided into a North/South thing.

You projected the southern racist redneck thing when I was just saying we are still very much a divided nation.

Though you're right that it is interesting that all the formerly, blatantly, racist states would happen to not like Democrats...specifically Obama in this election. AND you can't deny that since forever, the South has been slower to come along socially than the north.

What's ALSO interesting, is that the South has the highest rates of teen pregnancy, and also happens to be the place where "abstinence education" is still seen as valid in some sectors.

You can deny it all you want, but the South continues to be a lot slower when it comes to progress.


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 Post subject: Re: O-H-I-O
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I never said/denied any of that, I'm just getting tired of being painted as just another tobacco chewing sister fucking redneck because i live in the south.

especially by people who have never been here who are constantly telling me how tolerant they are.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:12 pm  
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Well, I've been to Texas many times...and I gotta say....there are some ignorant racist hicks there.

There are also some cool intelligent people. So yeah, mixed bag.

Still, I think you're more likely to find bible-bashing backwards hicks south of the Mason-Dixon Line than you are anywhere north of it. Again, that's not saying "all" people living in the south are like that...but a lot of people are.

Every stereotype has at least some kind of basis in truth, I firmly believe this.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:15 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
I never said/denied any of that, I'm just getting tired of being painted as just another tobacco chewing sister fucking redneck because i live in the south.


What, in your mind, puts you above that level?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:15 pm  
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I can tell you right now youll find racist rednecks in every state.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:32 pm  
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In other states they don't drive the culture and politics of the state as a whole.

And that doesn't answer my question.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:27 pm  
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I prefer the open racism of the south to the veiled and self-righteous racism of the north. At least in the south, they're honest about what they are, while in the north it's more of a self-congratulatory "look at all the wonderful things we've done to help those people, which we needed to do because we all know they'd never be able to do it for themselves." They're both the same kind of assholes, it's just that the ones in the north lie to themselves about what wonderful people it makes them.

I also think that it's telling that I heard the word "nigger" more in the two years after I moved back to bright, blue Northern Virginia more than I ever did in the 5-6 years I lived in Georgia and Florida. Funny the things you hear from people in suits when they think there's no one around but white folk.

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 Post subject: Re: O-H-I-O
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Jubbergun wrote:
I prefer the open racism of the south to the veiled and self-righteous racism of the north. At least in the south, they're honest about what they are, while in the north it's more of a self-congratulatory "look at all the wonderful things we've done to help those people, which we needed to do because we all know they'd never be able to do it for themselves." They're both the same kind of assholes, it's just that the ones in the north lie to themselves about what wonderful people it makes them.


There is some truth to this, but the fact is, there is limited black mobility and access in the North...and none in the South.

Nor is it really fair to say the South is "honest". They like to pretend to be welcoming, amiable and traditional people, but only within their microscopic comfort zone. They like to pretend to be moral, but they are completely indifferent to the culture of immorality they live with. They like to pretend they hold their beliefs impartially, but the same Southerners who damn blacks for being lazy, ignorant and unfaithful don't seem to have a problem with white chicks getting knocked up in high school, or embracing ignorance as a way of life.

And an average black man's chance of being subjected to a random ass whuppin by white cops in the North <<<<<<<<<< the South.

The counter-argument to "Southern honesty" is the world of Seinfeld. People disdain New Yorkers for being dicks, but in reality, they are just much more honest about their dickishness than the rest of the world. That especially includes the South - and California.


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 Post subject: Re: O-H-I-O
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There is some truth to this, but the fact is, there is limited black mobility and access in the North...and none in the South.


I'd have to disagree with you there, especially when it comes to urban centers in the south, like Atlanta. There are a lot of large companies, like Coca-Cola, where blacks are well-represented in the management and the workforce.

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And an average black man's chance of being subjected to a random ass whuppin by white cops in the North <<<<<<<<<< the South.


I don't know about that, either. Most of the police brutality stories seem to come from NY, Chicago, and California. It probably boils down to what you consider a "random" beating, though.

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 Post subject: Re: O-H-I-O
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:42 pm  
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Dont forget the LAPD, who are famous for it.


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