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 Post subject: Re: Female Voters
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:12 pm  
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The republican party did it, so that means its ok.


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 Post subject: Re: Female Voters
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:16 pm  
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I think bitchy cheap-shottery was a lot easier than just admitting that even when it's "about sex," it's about a lot more than sex.

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 Post subject: Re: Female Voters
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:30 pm  
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It isn't. Many US presidents, from JFK to FDR to Jefferson to Ike, had affairs, without betraying the public interest. There's absolutely no correlation between infidelity and breach of public trust. You are objectively wrong in your contention that it is about more than sex.

And the same men who are attracted to power are often the same men who feel compelled to conquer women.


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 Post subject: Re: Female Voters
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:48 am  
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Aestu wrote:
You are objectively wrong in your contention that it is about more than sex.


And yet here we are with the CIA director and some other guy being pushed out over the possible consequences of their sexual escapades. I think you have an obnoxious, over-used, two-word phrase that covers this situation that you need to dust off and swallow.

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 Post subject: Re: Female Voters
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:01 am  
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Jubbergun wrote:
Aestu wrote:
You are objectively wrong in your contention that it is about more than sex.


And yet here we are with the CIA director and some other guy being pushed out over the possible consequences of their sexual escapades. I think you have an obnoxious, over-used, two-word phrase that covers this situation that you need to dust off and swallow.

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 Post subject: Re: Female Voters
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Meowth wrote:
You aren't going to get the bat for sexing up some random up. There is always more to it.


So what was it with Clinton?


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 Post subject: Female Voters
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:18 pm  
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A sex scandal = vulnerability to blackmail. Major national security no-no


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 Post subject: Re: Female Voters
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Battletard wrote:
A sex scandal = vulnerability to blackmail. Major national security no-no


It wouldn't be a susceptibility if we didn't consider it an issue. Marital problems? Maybe. Not a national security issue.


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 Post subject: Re: Female Voters
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:28 pm  
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If your wife cant trust you, why should your country?


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 Post subject: Re: Female Voters
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Usdk wrote:
If your wife cant trust you, why should your country?


I don't condone cheating, but I don't think the president (or any governmental official) is sleeping with the country.


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 Post subject: Re: Female Voters
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:15 pm  
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It's more of evidence that you're willing to betray an oath that bothers people I think. Plus I'm sure there's been instances where women get secrets out of men that they shouldn't. Marylin Monroe perhaps.

I'm not saying he should have had to resign but holy fuck she's gonna get the house.


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 Post subject: Re: Female Voters
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:23 pm  
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mata_Hari

Pretty much the only example on record and even that is iffy. Like I said, presidents have waged wars and done great things while boning random interns and floozies.


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 Post subject: Female Voters
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:59 pm  
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Yuratuhl wrote:
Battletard wrote:
A sex scandal = vulnerability to blackmail. Major national security no-no


It wouldn't be a susceptibility if we didn't consider it an issue. Marital problems? Maybe. Not a national security issue.


Regardless, society does consider it a big enough issue that someone in a position of authority would go to incredible lengths to make sure it stayed a secret. If someone photographed him with a woman (or man, since lolrepublicans) and threatened to show his wife unless he did X, he might do it. It's stupid but the pressure and the issue comes just as much from within as it does from society.


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 Post subject: Re: Female Voters
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Battletard wrote:
Regardless, society does consider it a big enough issue that someone in a position of authority would go to incredible lengths to make sure it stayed a secret. If someone photographed him with a woman (or man, since lolrepublicans) and threatened to show his wife unless he did X, he might do it. It's stupid but the pressure and the issue comes just as much from within as it does from society.


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 Post subject: Re: Female Voters
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Battletard wrote:
Regardless, society does consider it a big enough issue that someone in a position of authority would go to incredible lengths to make sure it stayed a secret. If someone photographed him with a woman (or man, since lolrepublicans) and threatened to show his wife unless he did X, he might do it. It's stupid but the pressure and the issue comes just as much from within as it does from society.


This is why François Mitterand was a great president. He had a mistress, everyone knew it, and nobody could use it against him because it wasn't secret.


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