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 Post subject: @Indianapolis
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:22 pm  
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lolfracking

also lol@media "we have no idea what caused it just like we had no idea last dozen times it happened and never made front page news"


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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
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How far from the explosion is the nearest well/mine/whatever using fracking? I tried to find out. Got bupkiss. Checked the state of Indiana's Department of Natural Resources, found this:

Hydraulic fracturing was first introduced in the Illinois Basin in the early to mid-1950’s where it was found to be an effective method to increase production from oil wells in Illinois, Indiana, and western Kentucky. In some areas, the early use of hydraulic fracturing has been credited with increasing average production rates by 75% or more. The practice has been widely used here ever since.

If fracking was making houses go Ka-Boom, why haven't they been randomly exploding since the mid-1950's? OR HAVE THEY BEEN EXPLODING AND THE CIA BLACK-ARMY HELICOPTER CAVALRY HAS BEEN COVERING IT UP FOR THE ILLUMINATI AND THE FIVE JEWISH BANKERS?!?!?!?!?

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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:11 am  
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I assumed you were talking about an earthquake, but if it is this explosion I can't wait for yet another political thread to not read half the posts of.


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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
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A bunch of subjective and vague claims on the internet by pro-industry agency in support of biased position = clearly truth

Fracking has been very rare until recently (and also very uneconomical, for the obvious reason that there were reserves that were cheaper and easier to get to) which is also why it hasn't been in the popular parlance. Natural gas hasn't been a major source of energy until recently, either, which is why until recently most natural gas was burned off in flares.

There have been many recent horrific cases of exploding wells/sudden sinkholes/freak eruptions, which haven't been covered in the ridiculously liberal media. Google "fracking explosions" or something like that.

But hey I guess random eruptions in the middle of cities has been a common occurrence for centuries now. Right? Nothing new or interesting, couldn't possibly be connected to a dangerous and unusual practice. Nor does it needed to be explained? Jubber dismisses one obvious explanation (about a subject, like most subjects, he, being uneducated, knows nothing about but what he sees on Pravda Live) but doesn't offer another.

America haters like Jubbergun will lie and bullshit so they don't have to do anything for this country.


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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:40 am  
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I was hoping it was a sleeper cell trying to make bombs and someone fucked up real bad.


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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
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Aestu wrote:
A bunch of subjective and vague claims on the internet by pro-industry agency in support of biased position = clearly truth


I'm going to have to remember this one the next time you or someone else does the "well, <insert government agency here> says..." It's funny how you suddenly can't trust the government...let me know when you want me to mail you that Ron Paul bumper sticker.

For the record, I'm undecided on fracking. I've seen some data that lends credence to the assertions about sinkholes and ground destabilization (it's used in areas with a lot of limestone...like a lot of place near where I live now that are full of caverns and sinkholes happen from time-to-time), which makes sense in light of the fact they're pumping shitloads of water into the ground.

I openly mock you on this one. There's nothing in that article to indicate what caused the explosion. You're not even making an educated guess...you're just eager for it to be something it's not likely to be. You don't even know how near/far fracking is taking place from the exploding home. In short, you're being crazy, but we know it's not like you really need to back up your crazy assertions (despite always expecting everyone else to write a doctoral thesis with 24 unique sources to back their own up) because "this isn't a court of law."

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 Post subject: @Indianapolis
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No harmful long term effects could possibly ever come from fuckin blowing the side of a damn mountain off with high power explosives


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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
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Battletard wrote:
No harmful long term effects could possibly ever come from fuckin blowing the side of a damn mountain off with high power explosives


That's not fracking...that's strip mining, and almost everyone thinks that's pretty fucked up...you know, except Al Gore, who leased (and maybe still leases) family property in TN to a company for that purpose.

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 Post subject: @Indianapolis
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Battletard wrote:
No harmful long term effects could possibly ever come from fuckin blowing the side of a damn mountain off with high pressure water flow


Oh ok, my bad. Same shit different asshole.


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 Post subject: @Indianapolis
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Why should I care that Gore did it? Do you want me to defend whatever he did?

No, environmentalism transcends partisan politics. It's not a liberal issue or a conservative issue. Being environmentally conscious shouldn't have liberal connotations. It should be the fucking standard.


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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:42 am  
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Battletard wrote:
Why should I care that Gore did it? Do you want me to defend whatever he did?

No, environmentalism transcends partisan politics. It's not a liberal issue or a conservative issue. Being environmentally conscious shouldn't have liberal connotations. It should be the fucking standard.


No, don't expect you defend it, I just like making fun of the world's most boring hypocrite whenever the occasion arises.

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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
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Usdk wrote:
I was hoping it was a sleeper cell trying to make bombs and someone fucked up real bad.


Real-life sleeper cells are not into terrorism. They're disaffected Russians who are overpaid by their government to come and live here and send back newspaper clippings and pretend they're insidious badasses.

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I'm going to have to remember this one the next time you or someone else does the "well, <insert government agency here> says..." It's funny how you suddenly can't trust the government...let me know when you want me to mail you that Ron Paul bumper sticker.

For the record, I'm undecided on fracking. I've seen some data that lends credence to the assertions about sinkholes and ground destabilization (it's used in areas with a lot of limestone...like a lot of place near where I live now that are full of caverns and sinkholes happen from time-to-time), which makes sense in light of the fact they're pumping shitloads of water into the ground.

I openly mock you on this one. There's nothing in that article to indicate what caused the explosion. You're not even making an educated guess...you're just eager for it to be something it's not likely to be. You don't even know how near/far fracking is taking place from the exploding home. In short, you're being crazy, but we know it's not like you really need to back up your crazy assertions (despite always expecting everyone else to write a doctoral thesis with 24 unique sources to back their own up) because "this isn't a court of law."


You haven't seen any data on anything. What you haven't seen either is a hard-and-fast stand on the right-wing blogs and talk shows that are your sole source of information, because the facts are so bad they don't even want to talk about it. Proof being that you think that the fact that fracking is not mentioned, in a news article, is proof that such is a basis to exclude that possibility: to you, for all your blabber about liberal media bias, that is the gauge of what is or is not real.

This sort of thing is known to happen as a result of fracking, and it's a freakish occurrence that generally speaking simply does not happen otherwise. You just don't hear about or see random eruptions worldwide. Given that fracking is rare in the world at large, and is practiced in the area, that this is the result is common sense.

The truth is you are simply an America-hater who doesn't care about this country, only about getting what you want, right here, right now, and avoiding any kind of sacrifice or inconvenience such as thinking things you don't like thinking or having to adjust your lifestyle and world view.


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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:16 am  
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I personally believe that fracking can and does cause such things or at least speeds up the process. But at the same time I wonder how extracting millions of barrels of oil from some underground pool doesn't seem to have any negative affects on the ground below it. But I don't actively search for such things either.


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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
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So we're doing a trifecta today, are we?

1) "ur drum"
2) "you don't read/read the wrong books"
3) "ur a bad person because..."

At least #3 is an attempt at new material.

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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:43 am  
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Jubbergun wrote:
If I were only interested in what I wanted


...you would be making stupid rationalizations for being mentally lazy, that you are somehow better than everyone else who has what they do because of government assistance, and that since the system of military defense for oil interests works out for you and gets you your pension check, "hurr durr I served" checkbox, and tank of gas, all facts must indicate it is perfect. Any information suggesting that the defense/oil interest system that made your life is somehow flawed, is instantly wrong.

You certainly wouldn't be considering facts objectively to consider what is in the national interest, rather than what is flattering to you personally and facilitates your mental laziness.


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