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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:32 am  
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Not accusing anyone here of this, but it's sad that American "patriotism" has devolved into "individualism."

What ever happened to loving your country (and therefore your fellow Americans) over loving yourself? I think this is what makes Aestu angry. Could be wrong though.


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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:25 pm  
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I think he just likes to shit on everyone here who has a job.

Back to the original post, I would be interested to find out what cause the explosion.


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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:54 pm  
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I think it's funny that for all the grousing about the military and war for oil,' Aestu's basis for believing this is fracking-related is the same as the Bush Administration's was for believing there were WMDs in Iraq: the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:03 pm  
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Jubbergun wrote:
I think it's funny that for all the grousing about the military and war for oil,' Aestu's basis for believing this is fracking-related is the same as the Bush Administration's was for believing there were WMDs in Iraq: the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.


Everyone (including me) thought there was WMDs in Iraq, and the reason that everyone thought that was that Bush Senior gave them to Saddam to spray at Persian women and children during the Iran-Iraq War (and for that he should burn in hell).

It was only after the invasion was done and Saddam's advisors were interviewed that it turned out that the only reason there weren't WMD in Iraq was he was so scared shitless after the Gulf War that he got rid of them all. The argument against the war wasn't that there wasn't WMD, it was that it didn't matter, because the situation was stable.

In any event, you are once more behaving in a way that betrays that you are uneducated. "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" applies exclusively towards negative contentions, not positive ones. Your contention is negative; mine (and Bush) are positive. You're quoting what you think is educated-type language but applying it in a way completely opposite what it literally means.

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I think he just likes to shit on everyone here who has a job.


This is provably untrue (everyone?) and nothing I said was job-related. Fanta got my angle 100%.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:24 pm  
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Fantastique wrote:
Not accusing anyone here of this, but it's sad that American "patriotism" has devolved into "individualism."

What ever happened to loving your country (and therefore your fellow Americans) over loving yourself? I think this is what makes Aestu angry. Could be wrong though.


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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:30 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
I was hoping it was a sleeper cell trying to make bombs and someone fucked up real bad.


having lived here forever, i honestly thought it was going to be another meth lab explosion.
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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:47 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
I think he just likes to shit on everyone here who has a job.


Nope. I have had a job forever (before coming to Antigua) and he and I get along swimmingly. No, it's not the fact that someone has a job, it's whether or not they adhere to a "fuck you got mine" attitude or not. Not always, of course, but in many cases and most definitely in the political threads.

For all the " 'MERICA" and "USA USA USA" from the red states, they sure like to not give a shit about anyone but themselves. inb4 the typical red herring (or is it straw man?) fallacy of AMG THE BLUE STATES DO IT TOO. Let me save you the trouble by stating I never said they didn't.


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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
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There's a difference between "fuck you, got mine" and "fuck you, i'm still trying to get mine."

I'm in the second bit.


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 Post subject: Re: @Indianapolis
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:16 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
There's a difference between "fuck you, got mine" and "fuck you, i'm still trying to get mine." I'm in the second bit.


Oh? And I'm not?

If I was narrowly focused on being content day-to-day, I could forget about the big picture, in my life or the world at large, and be content with having well-off parents who pay my way. Obviously, I'm not, I still want "mine", but nor do I forget for a moment my relative degree of good fortune.

What's the difference between us?

And how does what you said - being in it for yourself - validate you or what you believe? How is your own self-interest somehow a noble motive?


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