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 Post subject: Interview/ Potential promotion tomorrow
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:39 pm  
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My lack of experience is due to starting in Hardware (opposite end of store), being re-hired after a layoff as a Commercial Sales Loader (fancy word for cart bro + forklift operator), switching to cashier / freight flow / night stocking / truck unload team as a result of back injury / store needs.

I've never had the need to train in specific departments. I'm transitioning from freight flow to customer service / sales / management. So there's never been a need until now. I'm hopeful that my solid answers and job performance will give me an advantage.

HR also mentioned that ability to lead employees > almost anything else in her answer to my question. She stated that the ability to work alongside people and not hide behind the title of manager is important, which reflects well on one of my answers to a question regarding poor performance.

Overall I think I did well, I'd fall short of saying I aced it though.


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 Post subject: Re: Interview/ Potential promotion tomorrow
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:03 pm  
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what color polo?
what shoes are you wearing?
how are you going to be doing the buttons on the polo?

also, don't be afraid to not have an answer to a question
saying "i'm not familiar with that topic" or "could you elaborate more on that?" is a much better answer than an arrogant, incorrect answer
that being said, presenting yourself in a confident, engaging manner in key as well. as far as the engaging point: be friendly, but not risky. you don't want to get caught trying to be the "funny guy" and end up offending someone, however you also don't want to be overly dull


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 Post subject: Re: Interview/ Potential promotion tomorrow
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:54 am  
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Make sure you send a "Thank You" e-mail/card to the people doing the interviews, B-Tard. That leaves a really good impression.

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 Post subject: Re: Interview/ Potential promotion tomorrow
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:11 am  
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Aestu wrote:
State Dept employment is highly competitive (I know because I took the examination) and very demanding. The military will take basically anyone who doesn't have a health issue. This is also why one gets 1/20th the budget of the other.

The State Dept is a mostly positive force and the military is not. This is inescapably linked with the fact that one involves thinking about things and the other involves blowing things up. I am aware of the rivalry and culture clash between the State Dept and the military/spooks.


Every part of the government that does hiring has some criteria by which is screens for the best applicants. The requirements to be a bullet sponge aren't as stringent as the requirements for a diplomatic post. That doesn't make either position any less of a job. If being in the military represents a hand-out, so does working in any other part of government. The military needs the State Department and the State Department needs the military. There isn't a person in the military that wants to see the State Department fail, since their failures usually end with people in uniform being shot at and having to blow things up. Didn't someone say that war was politics by different means?

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I don't deny you read and write well. And you're basically intelligent. Neither functional literacy or basic intelligence means much without education and mental organization. That includes having a decent knowledge base and critical thinking skills.


Schooling isn't the only place people pick up knowledge and skills, old pal.

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This is the very essence of the America-hater argument.

No, good Americans DON'T need an incentive to cooperate. That is the difference between a good American and a bad American.
Case in point: right wingers and military trash simply hate America.


This is almost a 'no true Scotsman' argument, since you're saying no one that disagrees with you can be a true American. People are driven by incentives and disincentives, and the incentives to "cooperate," as you keep phrasing it (when you're forced into doing something you're not cooperating, you're complying), don't outweigh the disincentives. The ACA is putting a new burden on employers but it gives them no pay-off for picking up that burden. Aside from insurance costs there are administrative and reporting costs. The ACA makes the federal government into that woman who wants a fancy dinner and expects her date to pay for it.

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 Post subject: Re: Interview/ Potential promotion tomorrow
PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:43 pm  
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The person you are quoting is Clausewitz. Clausewitz, of course, lived long before the invention of nuclear weapons. War may be politics by other means but those means are largely obsolete. This is also why his people eventually gave it up and moved on, changing their strategy and accomplishing in fifty years of peace what they could never manage in 2,500 years of war.

Anyway, the distinction you are trying to dismiss is very real. Some jobs are overpaid and some are not. Some are overly comfortable for a person with a given level of skill and responsibility and others are not.

Should radiologists get paid twice what GPs do because of the system they work in? Probably not, but they do; because the system is broken and needs to be fixed. By the same token, because the system is broken, military service is by and large an overly sweet deal for people who couldn't even make it as janitors in the civilian world.

I took the FSOT. It's a hard examination, one of the hardest standardized exams there is. (I passed with flying colors but did not make it to the next stage of the selection, probably because I didn't intern for a legislator, and I am monolingual). Funny enough I have the FSOT "Pass" certificate tacked to my wall, just above my computer monitor and to the right, but my college diploma has a spaghetti sauce stain and is folded up in a drawer with some old utility bills. Make of that what you will.

Anyone with the intelligence and skill to pass the exam and the rest of the even more demanding intake process is a bargain buy at $80k/yr plus benefits. That is significantly less pay than many jobs that require less commitment, intelligence and skills (e.g., lawyer, middle manager, truck driver, civil clerk, accountant, technician). You can't say that of jarheads.

Yes, we need a military. We also need garbagemen and Rent-A-Cops. Just because someone or something is necessary does not mean it is heroic awesomeness. If we are spending a third of our budget on defense, more than the next two dozen or whatever countries combined, and employing some three million reprobates in defense and defense-related industries, then we can conclude that spending on a "need" has become largely waste and that those who have benefited are simply not earning their keep.

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I don't deny you read and write well. And you're basically intelligent. Neither functional literacy or basic intelligence means much without education and mental organization. That includes having a decent knowledge base and critical thinking skills.
Schooling isn't the only place people pick up knowledge and skills, old pal.


Did I say anything about schooling?
No...because you're right, it isn't.

The problem is, you don't do the things that are viable alternatives - in fact quite superior - to school. Such as read books and think about what you've read. That is how one builds a decent knowledge base and critical thinking skills: by reading many different books, by many different authors, with many different perspectives, comparing things, the world gradually comes into focus. Having a view of the world in crisp focus is the opposite of broad and vague but incorrect generalizations.

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This is almost a 'no true Scotsman' argument, since you're saying no one that disagrees with you can be a true American. People are driven by incentives and disincentives, and the incentives to "cooperate," as you keep phrasing it (when you're forced into doing something you're not cooperating, you're complying), don't outweigh the disincentives. The ACA is putting a new burden on employers but it gives them no pay-off for picking up that burden. Aside from insurance costs there are administrative and reporting costs. The ACA makes the federal government into that woman who wants a fancy dinner and expects her date to pay for it.


The issue is not that you have a difference of opinion, it is the assumptions and values underlying that difference of opinion. Any political opinion is acceptable to me, no matter how divergent from my own, so long the good of the American people is at the apex of one's political hierarchy of values.

Your underlying assumption - your supreme good - is the good of employers, wealthy businesses, etc, and not the community at large. Having a different idea about what would be good for the country is fine; arguing that giving those who have done well for themselves an "incentive" is more important than the good of the country is not.

The Fed isn't "getting a fancy dinner". Workers are getting healthcare. You are turning reality on its head. Fat cats are being forced give a bit back to the country that has given them so much.

Obviously the country did something for you too: the education and financial support that comes with military service - so I don't see the point in making the leg up exclusive to military welfare.

Oh and GL react. I am sure it will work out.


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