Your "Lose Faith in Humanity" moment for the day

Fiora · **Posted:** Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:23 pm

Aestu wrote:

Usdk wrote:

So when I was burying my dog, i heard a crash from the road behind the houses across the street from my house. Called the cops, found out later from my cop friends that a guy on a crotchrocket was drunk driving, drunk girlfriend on his back went straight through the pylon holding up an exit sign.

His helmet split in half but he was otherwise FINE. Girlfriend broke 40% of the bones in her body.

If that doesn't bother you, my first reactive thought when I heard the crash was "Thank FUCK someone is having a worse night than me."

It doesn't. Why should it? A drunk died from her own decision to do something incredibly stupid and irresponsible.

And she DESERVED to die horribly.

Why? Because they put others at risk. What if they hit some innocent person? What if some pedestrian was standing next to that sign? It happens all the time, a drunk driver kills some innocent person but gets away scot-free. Now THAT would make me sad and angry.

The fact the girl wasn't the driver is irrelevant. She was there, she knew what she was getting into, she encouraged this behavior, she was party to it. Designated driver? Apparently not. Who was at the handlebars is arbitrary.

Potential manslaughter got her just deserts. Thankfully no innocents were hurt.
Nothing to be bothered about at all.

So, why are you focusing on the passenger?

Usdk · **Posted:** Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:23 pm

Oh she didn't die.

But I understand the point.

Monotheist · **Posted:** Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:33 pm

Fiora wrote:

My friends and I were at an intersection late at night and witnessed a man getting hit and run over completely. We called the police and drove off in a panic. A man came out of the gas station on the corner of the intersection to check on the man in the street. We drove back to the scene after we were done freaking out and come to find out the driver was my brothers friend, and my brother was the passenger.

The boys were let go and sent home not even a half hour after the accident. No drug tests, nothing. The victim was a Hispanic man, he didn't make it.

The driver was on ecstasy. The cops didn't give a shit about the man enough to even test them for drinking.

This was a drunken rant but I felt like it.

Edit: I should clarify that it wasn't their fault, the man WAS drunk and crossing on a green light.

Yeah I mean who gives a fuck if someone dies as long as their not white right. Never mind the driver could of possibly avoided it if he had not been impaired.

Yuratuhl · **Posted:** Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:35 pm

Monotheist wrote:

Yeah I mean who gives a fuck if someone dies as long as their not white right. Never mind the driver could of possibly avoided it if he had not been impaired.

Truth is, the DUI (if it was determined to be so) is irrelevant. Guy jaywalked and got hit by a vehicle driving lawfully. There's no strict liability for impaired drivers.

Aestu · **Posted:** Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:43 pm

Fiora wrote:

So, why are you focusing on the passenger?

The premise of Usd's post (or so it seemed) was that what happened to someone, this person who died of impact, should be bothersome. The passenger is the premise, so that is what I focused on.

Is my reasoning satisfatory, Fiora?

(you will find this is a common posting formula I use)

Monotheist wrote:

Yeah I mean who gives a fuck if someone dies as long as their not white right. Never mind the driver could of possibly avoided it if he had not been impaired.

THERE MAY BE A WHITE WOMAN MISSING SOMEWHERE IN AMERICA

Yuratuhl wrote:

Truth is, the DUI (if it was determined to be so) is irrelevant. Guy jaywalked and got hit by a vehicle driving lawfully. There's no strict liability for impaired drivers.

Is there a reason it is so? That seems pretty outrageous.

Usdk · **Posted:** Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:48 pm

Doesn't matter how drunk you are if you're obeying the laws of traffic.

Person jumps in front of a car, or is running around in the street, etc, its their fault whether or not the driver is drunk.

But then it all comes down to how it's articulated in court, if it gets that far.

Aestu · **Posted:** Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:51 pm

Usdk wrote:

Doesn't matter how drunk you are if you're obeying the laws of traffic.

Person jumps in front of a car, or is running around in the street, etc, its their fault whether or not the driver is drunk.

But then it all comes down to how it's articulated in court, if it gets that far.

http://www.duifoundation.org/legalguide ... rvsfelony/

Quote:

A regular drunk driving offense usually becomes an automatic felony charge if the driver committed an illegal act, neglected a legal responsibility, or if his or her aforementioned negligence resulted in harm to a person.

If a drunk hits a drunk, the DUI offense becomes a felony, in most states, even if the drunk didn't have a right to be where he was.

Traffic rules are state specific. I am the least qualified person but I am fairly sure that in CA, drunk driving is automatic responsibility for malfeasance.

Fiora · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:05 am

Aestu wrote:

Fiora wrote:

Is my reasoning satisfatory, Fiora?

What of I were to say.. It wasn't satisfactory!

But honestly, I could give a shit about the driver. I don't care for the kid too much. And, they had noticed our car sitting at the red light of the intersection which distracted them.

The guy was drunk and crossing the street with stupidity. I do think its wrong that the driver was not tested for anything and let go so easily. But, there were no reason to think there would be a man crossing the intersection at 1am on a green light..

I live in the Hamptons, where people know people, and white kids > Hispanic. They don't want to fuck with anyone's kid for someone who is here illegally. Sad but true.

Either way, it was horrific and it should not have happened.

Aestu · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:19 am

I took Amtrak home from Maryland a few months back. My trip, which is chronicled on this site, took me on foot through several intersections at 1AM.

Whether something is to be expected or not is irrelevant. Driving is about reaction. That is why drunks and robots aren't allowed to drive. Legally or no, drunk = guilty.

My "mother" was Puerto Rican. She grew up in Queens and moved to Sacramento 30 years ago. She is sensitive to light and heat, so she wears a wide-brimmed coolie hat. People often talk dismissively around her because she is Hispanic (even though PR was conquered by the US in 1898 and its people have been recognized as citizens of the US ever since), then she turns around and cuts loose in her articulate, highly literate NY accent, which usually raises some eyebrows.

And I think Mono has a story involving a cop and being accused of being in this country illegally. As if that even matters when it comes to enforcing any law.

But, uh, yeah. Migrant status has nothing to do with it. 100% racism.

Quote:

What of I were to say.. It wasn't satisfactory!

The answer is, you get "Aestu'd".

You see what that means.

Fiora · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:23 am

Oh it is definitely racism. No doubt..

And no one would be expecting a man to be crossing at that time.. especially because in that area there is NO WHERE TO GO...
So what that man was doing, I don't even know.

Usdk · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:31 am

Definitely racism. No way of telling if the person is here legally or not at the scene. That shit takes time.

Fiora · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:34 am

I'm going to slowly back out of this discussion.. too depressing and I don't want to talk about it anymore!

Usdk · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:45 am

HOW ABOUT

NOW?

Your move.

Fiora · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:47 am

Usdk wrote:

HOW ABOUT

NOW?

Your move.

OMG~

Aestu · **Posted:** Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:56 am

I don't know about possums, but washing cats is funny. They resist being dunked in the tub, splaying their legs across the length of the bath. Once you finally get them in the water, they go completely stiff and put this expression of offended dignity on their face. After they're done and are dried off, they strut away, very obviously pleased with their clean fur.

And it's the same every time.

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