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 Post subject: Re: The New Year
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:28 pm  
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Do you know all the backstory on Arnold? Apparently he kept getting consistently fucked over by other high-ranking officers who had a problem with General Washington (with whom Arnold was a close friend), and he got fed up with the bullshittery and tried to give everyone a big "fuck you."

He's still a traitor, but the context amuses me for some reason.

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 Post subject: Re: The New Year
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:45 pm  
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I know the backstory. Arnold was more Aestu than Aestu. He was an insufferable megalomaniac who always had to be in charge and kept reaching past his level.

People were suspicious of Arnold even before he betrayed the cause because they knew he was capable of just that. He didn't simply betray the country, he bitched, argued and hectored with the British about his price until they were almost ready to say, "you know, just let the Yanks have him." After he turned traitor, he met with nothing but failure in his life and sued everyone in sight because he could never accept not getting everything he wanted, right away.

Proof being the very rationalization you give. You don't get a promotion because some people don't like you, so you turn traitor?


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 Post subject: Re: The New Year
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:54 pm  
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I don't disagree. There was no justification for what he did, but it's an interesting story, a lot deeper than just 'he sold out his country.'

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 Post subject: Re: The New Year
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:58 pm  
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If Kim Kardashian were an Army general...

Besides, Alcibiades was much more interesting and dramatic as egomanical traitors go.


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