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 Post subject: Re: @Azelma / Chicagoites
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:54 pm  
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Usdk wrote:
Ask for help.

Berate people for saying no.

No one in their right mind would tie their credit to some unemployed stranger, and you're a fool to think otherwise.


Thats a matter of semantics and perspective. But not wrong. I can see it that way for sure.

As i said, i accept Azelmas choice and dont hold it against him. I only ask for want of better ideas.

I apologize for being ungracious, Azelma. We can still have lunch oe something once this is all settled =D. If that works for you, that is.


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 Post subject: Re: @Azelma / Chicagoites
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A lot of private landlords don't run someone's credit when they look for a place to rent. I would suggest looking on Craigslist for a room to rent, but it appears you would prefer to be alone...

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 Post subject: Re: @Azelma / Chicagoites
PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:23 pm  
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My credit is excellent. As Usd noted, the problem is lack of employment. Back to my original plan to bluff my way past, then resort to bullying my parents if that doesnt work.

And yes youre correct, Callysta, i do prefer to be alone - or at least choose my company. Besides the live-in, there is a male friend (not a regular fubuer) who may come to live with me for mutual assistance. Not averse to sharing the live-in (its been discussed, depends on many variables). It is for this reason the apt in question is a 2br ($100 more than a 1br and still $400+ less than the status quo)

Usd was correct though, i was ungracious to berate azelma. Again i apologize.


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 Post subject: Re: @Azelma / Chicagoites
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Aestu wrote:
I apologize for being ungracious, Azelma. We can still have lunch oe something once this is all settled =D. If that works for you, that is.


No worries, and yes we can absolutely meet up - just need to make the logistics work :)

I understand you're in a tough position and trying to better yourself, which I fully support and want to encourage.




Other than another friend or family member cosigning...I know some apartments don't require one so you could just look for that. I know, for example, my sister in Philly has a large house and they rent out spare rooms to people. They don't ask for credit, and don't even draft up a lease...they let people go from month to month as needed (though they do interview them and vet them). So, there are definitely living situations out there...perhaps just renting a room from someone might be a good move. I'd say check craigslist anyway.


Others might accept a bank statement proving you have some funds...or even a letter of good standing from your current landlord?


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 Post subject: Re: @Azelma / Chicagoites
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I am very particular to this apartment due to cost, layout, neighborhood and geography. And limited time.

I could definitely get the current realtor to vouch for me...though i am concerned theyd be miffed about lack of prior notice. My parents supply funds month-to-month; i have enough ready cash for first/last month, no more.


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 Post subject: Re: @Azelma / Chicagoites
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My apartment didn't require a cosign, it did require me to prove that I make at least 3x my rent each month though -- which I've been told is a pretty standard practice.


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Speech check: Success

I was able to talk my way through it without having to bring in my parents. I lied and said I was self-employed and got paid in cash. They just asked to see a printout of my bank account. They probably wouldn't even care I was lying. Money is money to them.

$680/mo for a 2br nicer than what I currently have is savings of...$400 a month. Total cost to move including the train tickets, hotel rooms, on-go meals, taxicab and moving service is about $2,000. So, I should make up the cost by mid-year, all with my parents none the wiser.

The apartment is very nice, recently reupholstered, with new appliances, carpeting, tiles and everything. Much nicer than what I currently have. It is located in Clifton, equidistant from UCinn, Cinn CC, and the local rabbinical school (which would probably hire me to do menial work there on the strength of being visibly Jewish). Meanwhile, I will get my Ohio ID, and begin attending classes at the local CC ASAP.

I also did some research and have some very strong ideas on where to find a live-in: singling out individuals from poor, low-pop, semi-rural communities in Indiana. I believe I'll be able to complete that project within two months.


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 Post subject: Re: @Azelma / Chicagoites
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Grats man! *e-high-five*

Glad you were able to work it out...sounds like this grand venture is becoming more and more likely to become a real success.

Are you looking forward to your parents faces when you finally reveal you're living in Cinci and attending school there?


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I am in the habit of comparing my mother's financial skills to Hitler's military skills. She's actually very good at what she does, she's just so insane that she can't make good decisions. Meaning, she may well figure out pretty quickly what is going on - although I plan on making an effort to hide it by transferring $1100 a month to my PayPal then paying the $680/mo rent out of that account, so it looks like I'm still paying the full rent.

Either way, because my parents are cowards, they will probably not do anything about it.

If they don't figure it out, then yes, Azelma, that had occurred to me. I am looking forward to the look. And if I'm really lucky, the shock will be lethal to at least one of them. Then I can get their stuff and put it to work for me, accelerating my plans.


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 Post subject: Re: @Azelma / Chicagoites
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Aestu wrote:
I am in the habit of comparing my mother's financial skills to Hitler's military skills.



To be fair, didn't Hitler decide to invade Russia? For a man with considerable skills, that's a huge fail. ;)


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I think he was desperate for oil, and his dwindling reserves forced his hand.

I consider it more of a fuckup that he didn't allow anyone to move troops without his consent thus northern france was less defended than it could(should?) have been.


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When Hitler invaded Russia, the Red Army was a mess. Its leadership had been seriously undermined by Stalin's purges and they had almost no weapons due to poor relations with the West and spending all their resources on long-term industrial buildup.

Khrushchev relates how terrified Stalin and the rest of the Communist leadership was. On the eve of the invasion, a German Communist sympathizer crossed the lines to warn the Soviets of the impending invasion. Stalin chose to ignore the warning because he wanted so badly to believe it wasn't so. When the invasion began he tried to convince himself it was a misunderstanding. And when it became clear it wasnt, he literally threw up his hands and proclaimed "Its all over". Kruschchev, on assignment in the Ukraine, near the front, phoned back to the Kremlin for instructions and was told to make pikes in the local factories. It was at this time that the Molotov cocktail was invented - an improvised anti-tank bomb - and named after Stalin's chief of staff.

Incidentally, a true Molotov cocktail is not simply a beer bottle filled with gasoline - the actual recipe involves sulfuric acid and ammonium nitrate, and properly utilized by impacting it on the tank's ventilator, air intake or treads. Because modern armor is fully self-contained, like a sub or spacecraft, Molotovs are no longer effective.

Hitler's basic reasoning in choosing to invade Russia was sound. Germany needed raw materials to win the war - oil, food, coal, wood, ore and manpower. And it was necessary to head off the risk that the USSR would complete its preparations and enter the war on its own terms.

Hitler's mistake wasn't the decision to invade Russia. The three big mistakes he made were:

1. Dividing his forces between Moscow, Leningrad and Stalingrad, rather than pushing on to Moscow then consolidating the rest of the country - he did the former because he was unstable and given to irrational mirth

2. Deciding to not invade Englamd, because he was a self-admitted marine cowar (as well as basically insecure)

3. Deciding to put all RnD into development of terror weapons rather than militarily useful innovations such as the Me262

Any one of those bad decisions reversed could have changed the outcome of the war. In all cases, the issue was just that Hitler was nuts. Yet he did show remarkable insight at times - his prescient detection of an Allied weak point prior to the Battle of the Bulge.

Hitler was a lowborn Austrian peasant, and as a result he had a poor working relationship with his Prussian Junker generals. Neither he nor they liked or trusted each other. Both parties had delusions of their own infalliability and an arrogant disassociation from the on-the-ground realities. This was the real reason Hitler's generals tried to kill him - personal resentment - and not any kind of real moral or ideological opposition to the Nazi regime.

Anyway, my mom is basically the same way. Very intelligent in the abstract, has flashes of profound insight. Very good at detecting BS and saying what is really going on. But because she is stubborn, insecure, cowardly and neurotic, she cant turn her observations into actionable planning and she cant accept equivocal input from others. She freezes up at bad times and all these qualities synergize badly with my histrionic, self-absorbed father.

Uh, so there.


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 Post subject: Re: @Azelma / Chicagoites
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And yes Usd is correct. Hitler was napping when D-Day went off and was therefore unavailable to give his consent to redeploy to stop the invaders at the beach. He insisted on monopolizing control because, after all, these people had tried to kill him. Validating his lack of trust, they derided his "peasant-like" table manners (something Prussians take inordinately seriously) and dubbed him "that corporal" (Hitler's WWI rank, particularly unfair and offensive because becoming an NCO was not easy, especially for an Auslander, and required good education and combat skill)


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 Post subject: Re: @Azelma / Chicagoites
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I like that I can goad you into giving me free history lessons, Aestu.

Haha, in all seriousness, I thought the simple invasion of Russia was Hitler's biggest mistake, as well as Napoleon's.

I appreciate getting the facts, so thank you...still, I think "never invade Russia" is a good rule to live by. It's too big, and too cold.


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I rechecked what I wrote. Molotov was foreign minister, not chief of staff, something I should have remembered from the notorious Ribbentrop-Molotov pact, and apparently the appellation for the cocktail was dubbed by the Finns, not the Russians (though indeed styled after that particular individual).

You have to remember that Russia is mostly empty space. Russia has vast natural resources basically untapped (or very inefficiently) because of political disarray and lack of transit. Capturing Moscow, St Petersburg (aka Leningrad/Petrograd) and the Chelyabinsk industrial region is all an invader needs to do to win. Napoleon had the massive disadvantage of making his attempt before the invention of electricity and petrol.

On my way back to my erstwhile home in Boston, currently in dc waiting on a stopover. I traveled through WV next to this former Navy MP. Wore a slovenly hooded sweater, weighed a good 220 lbs, ate almond MnMs straight from a 1L bag, chuggexd Mountain Dew and apple juice the entire time. He slept with his legs wide, snoring, smacking his lips and twitching. But when he was awake we chanced to have a series of interesting conversations. Reminded me a lot of Jubber and some other people. Uneducated but intelligent and had quite some common sense. Identified many of the problem of this great country and its people. Just goes to show you can learn things from anyone, everyone can contribute their bit to the world. Though it is outrageous this guy can spend most of his life as a pensioner because of military welfare.

Traveling through WV was depressing. WV is clearly a state with tremendous natural beauty and resources that these creatures do not respect or deserve. I see that not for nothing are WVers considered vermin. Their homes are hovels with piles of crap everywhere, positioned totally at random on massive plots of otherwise very nice land. Because they do not plan their building, their hovels are a fire hazard, and for that reason I can visually see they do not do controlled burns of their forests. Stagnant detritus and no vegetation is everywhere. We passed by some coal mines gouged totally at random and storage flats presumably built on top of the filled in areas. The rivers are visibly polluted; the water is stagnant and shines green with cupric oxides.

Poverty is no excuse. These people have tremendous land to garden, to build, to at least take care of what they have, clean up their hovels. I couldn't help but think of the irony of people like Churchill who said that the native Americans were forced from this land for a better race of people. Never have there been those who had so much, deserved it so little, and squandered it so utterly.

I think it boils down to...easy come, easy go.

I could not help but think that in the short to intermediate term future, there are probably abundant stocks of white trash women I could use pick a concubine from, and in the longer term, this would be an interesting region to come back to one day, invest in, uplift these people and make money doing it. Build some good buildings, give these people jobs and order, educate them, etc. Colonize WV, as it were.

As far as the live-in project goes, I did research on the white trash communities and was led to the discovery of online mugshots and arrest records. It is my intent to recruit a dead-ender girl in her early 20s, one with a marginal but not dangerous history, make her an offer she cant refuse then fix her up a bit. I have already narrowed my search to a number of specific candidates by name. The next step is to outfit the second bedroom with suppression devices (e.g., widescreen TV, overstuffed plush comforters, water/beer dispensers, a closet, an abundance of excessively bright colored plushies, a stationary cycle so she can exercise, that sort of thing) and buy a suit and some business cards. I also intend to use the suit and business cards as tools in some other plans I have, which will be seen in good time.

The trip by Amtrak was fortuitous. The inn check-out was at noon, but the train was at 3am, so I had to loiter in the train station for the next 15 hrs. I read more of the Federalist Papers while playing Pokemon Platinum. I came across the headshot for all Second Amendment arguments, which ill copy down when i get back to my PC.

Oh, here it is:

Alexander Hamilton wrote:
The project of disciplining all the militia of the United States...to acquire the degree of perfection which would entitle them to the character of a well-regulated militia, would be a real grievance to the people, and a serious public inconvenience and loss.

...It would form an annual deduction from the productive labor of the country..and the experiment, if made, could not succeed, because it would not long be endured...

...But though the scheme of disciplining the whole nation must be abandoned as mischievous or impracticable; yet it is a matter of the utmost importance that a well-digested plan should, as soon as possible, be adopted for the proper establishment of the militia. The attention of the government ought particularly to be directed to the formation of a select corps of moderate extent, upon such principles as will really fit them for service in case of need. By thus circumscribing the plan, it will be possible to have an excellent body of well-trained militia, ready to take the field whenever the defense of the State shall require it. This will not only lessen the call for military establishments, but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist.


Bam. From the horse's very mouth. When the FFs wrote the Second Amendment, they didn't mean "you get to pack heat under your bed so you can shoot crooks and government bureaucrats," they meant "you can join a well-regulated local militia, train up regularly, so that we don't have to pay for a standing army that will inevitably threaten the democracy."

So if people want to keep believing that the Second Amendment means the right to pack heat, whatever, those people are ignorant and wrong. As if they can be convinced. Whatever.

I struck up a convo with the ticket man who was apparently a big history buff. We talked about trains and the art deco, aka "Gotham City", architectural style, about civil planning, etc. Interestingly, Amtrak looks set for a period of growth due to rising fuel prices and people getting tired of TSA gropefests. And there is increasing political mandate for more infrastructure.

Digression: I have come to believe that within the next 30 years, socialism may well become a mainstream political force in America, largely because of the influence of SimCity and Civilization. Libertarianism has no place in those games. The entire premise of the SimCity/Civ strategy genre is that you CAN'T just tell your people "go and solve your own problems". If you want your people to build a great nation, you have to direct them, give them the means: lay roads, dig aqueducts and mines, plant forests and farms, aggressively tax-and-spend.

I think many of the up-and-coming generation will come to take that attitude into real life without even realizing it.
Also see: 2Fast2Furious.

Anyway, so it happened a young man we were speaking of showed up at this odd hour - a Reform Ashkenazi Jew about my age who might almost be my other life. He wore a fedora and deco style shoes. Instead of Hasidic style earlocks or a Gentile clean-cut, he trimmed his hair long around the ears, something it had honestly never occurred to me to do. I will be doing that from now on. Not to mention it looks super manly. Like, so manly you might need to consider getting a second circumcision. I mean, Protestants can be born again, or virgins again, right?

The convo was kind of disjointed due to mutual surprise and the odd hour, but we exchanged emails. I intend to become socially active here in Cinn. I have learned the need to interact with others, make friends and extend my horizons.

His parents gave him money to invest in some business ventures - buying foreclosed homes and fixing them up. this made me very angry and jealous because I know I could do that at least as well, but for all their self-serving blather about how much they care, believe in me, support me, etc, my parents just suck and hate me.

I have come to realize my "mother" is a piece of barrio trash who has no idea how to be a Jewish mother, but likes to take on the affectation to flatter herself - an attitude I've come to realize she developed when she was a young girl living in Queens looking jealously across the island at the nice Jewish families on the other side. This is also why she understands Spanish well enough to translate Italian movies in real-time, but refuses to speak or read or translate the language in daily life and pretends she can't. My father is just spoiled and self-indulgent. Regardless, I have every intention of doing better. I truly want life in Cinn to be a new beginning in so many ways.

EDIT: So I just tried my laptop, and, apparently, there's wireless service at the Barnes and Noble I am a few meters from. lol.

Incidentally, I encourage everyone tired of my petty spiteful ranting to write their own posts.


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