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 Post subject: Re: CNN tests drivers after smoking up to 1 Gram of weed
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:25 am  
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I agree with Aestu on this one, tbh.

Plus pot stinks.


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 Post subject: Re: CNN tests drivers after smoking up to 1 Gram of weed
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:59 am  
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Usdk wrote:
I agree with Aestu on this one, tbh.

Plus pot stinks.


Have you ever smoked pot?



Anyway, I agree Aestu...the apathy that pot encourages is toxic. However, I've seen such apathy in alcohol use. The difference is, alcohol at least is a social lubricant...so in business/conversation/relationships it has a much more fostering role. I'll agree with that.


Still, I'm surprised you don't find you and Usdk agreeing on a point troubling.


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 Post subject: Re: CNN tests drivers after smoking up to 1 Gram of weed
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:22 am  
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Azelma wrote:
Anyway, I agree Aestu...the apathy that pot encourages is toxic. However, I've seen such apathy in alcohol use. The difference is, alcohol at least is a social lubricant...so in business/conversation/relationships it has a much more fostering role. I'll agree with that.

Alcohol, however, is literally toxic.

Stop being retarded.

EDIT: That whole "social lubricant" thing is the alcohol shutting down parts of your brain, by the way.


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 Post subject: Re: CNN tests drivers after smoking up to 1 Gram of weed
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:29 am  
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Mns wrote:
Azelma wrote:
Anyway, I agree Aestu...the apathy that pot encourages is toxic. However, I've seen such apathy in alcohol use. The difference is, alcohol at least is a social lubricant...so in business/conversation/relationships it has a much more fostering role. I'll agree with that.

Alcohol, however, is literally toxic.

Stop being retarded.

EDIT: That whole "social lubricant" thing is the alcohol shutting down parts of your brain, by the way.

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Seriously though, what was retarded about what I said? Did I say alcohol wasn't toxic? Did I provide reasons for alcohol functioning as a social lubricant that weren't true, or did I merely just point out a function it has in society? I believe I was referring to "apathy" as toxic...so what exactly was "retarded"?

Please, enlighten me.


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 Post subject: Re: CNN tests drivers after smoking up to 1 Gram of weed
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:39 am  
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Aestu's really rubbing off on you.


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 Post subject: Re: CNN tests drivers after smoking up to 1 Gram of weed
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:44 am  
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You dont have to smoke pot to realize you don't like the smell.


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 Post subject: Re: CNN tests drivers after smoking up to 1 Gram of weed
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:46 am  
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Mns wrote:
Aestu's really rubbing off on you.


I'd just like to know what exactly I said that was retarded.

I've been known to say very retarded things, I'll be the first to admit it...I'm just curious what was so stupid about what I said.


If you're going to insult me...I'd appreciate if it was actually warranted. Which is why I'm asking for an explanation.


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 Post subject: CNN tests drivers after smoking up to 1 Gram of weed
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:23 am  
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Alcohol is toxic and its more okay than weed is the point Mns is bringing home.

Aestu, are you in favor of banning alcohol consumption for the same reasons? It encourages apathy and it is much more detrimental to ones health than marijuana.

People can use alcohol responsibly without becoming entirely dysfunctional, or even close, so why should weed be any different?


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 Post subject: Re: CNN tests drivers after smoking up to 1 Gram of weed
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:45 am  
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Being an alcoholic is expensive and poses serious health risks. It also makes it much harder to function in daily life. If pot were legal, pot would be cheap and easy to grow (at least at first), and being a pothead would be possible with far fewer health risks and less impact on one's capability to do simple self-care tasks.

Most people stop drinking past a certain point not because they're tired of feeling good but because they don't want to feel bad.

Pot does not have the inherent self-limiting qualities that alcohol does. And that is why the apathy it conveys is that much more dangerous.

Azelma, I think what Mayo means is that you are adopting my absolute worst personal quality - my reflex for long-winded belligerence. I think he feels that what he said didn't call for that sort of response, and you made a characteristically Aestu mistake that you wouldn't normally make.

And no I don't mind when people agree with me on individual points. Quite the contrary, it's a sign of profound discussion when dissimilar views agree on something. It's to be expected that people with similar views will agree on things, but if people with utterly dissimilar views agree on something, there's probably something there. Either a bona fide truth, or a fallacy taken for granted.


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 Post subject: Re: CNN tests drivers after smoking up to 1 Gram of weed
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:23 am  
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Aestu wrote:
Most people stop drinking past a certain point not because they're tired of feeling good but because they don't want to feel bad.


That's extremely incorrect. For those who are genetically inclined, alcohol is more addictive than all other drugs combined. Even moreso than opioids. I worked addiction/pain management nursing for a while, and alcoholics were some of the most terrible, resistant, and circumnavigatory people I've ever seen. It's a nasty, depersonalizing, and pervasive affliction imo.


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 Post subject: Re: CNN tests drivers after smoking up to 1 Gram of weed
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:41 am  
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We're not talking about people at the extreme, we're talking about people in the center. The issue isn't how some "genetically inclined" people react to weed or alcohol, the issue is how legalizing one or the other changes society as a whole.


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 Post subject: Re: CNN tests drivers after smoking up to 1 Gram of weed
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:41 am  
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So...

Heroin should be legal?


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 Post subject: Re: CNN tests drivers after smoking up to 1 Gram of weed
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:48 am  
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Weena wrote:
So...Heroin should be legal?


Why is it illegal to do heroin but legal to drink paint?


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 Post subject: Re: CNN tests drivers after smoking up to 1 Gram of weed
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:09 am  
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I'm wholly sure I don't understand the rhetoric behind the question, if there is any.


"Ok we aren't such things and birds are pretty advanced. They fly and shit from anywhere they want. While we sit on our automatic toilets, they're shitting on people and my car while a cool breeze tickles their anus. That's the life."
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 Post subject: Re: CNN tests drivers after smoking up to 1 Gram of weed
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:22 am  
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Weena wrote:
I'm wholly sure I don't understand the rhetoric behind the question, if there is any.


If this were actually true, you would answer it directly, rather than ducking it because you can see clearly where it's leading.


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