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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:55 pm  
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all I have to say is

palin. sry, GOP loses a lot if not all of its credibility at the mention of her name. Also, bush tax cuts. why worry about "how to pay for healthcare" when nobody gave a rats ass when families like mine got a tax cut we didnt need without having to pay for it? I just dont understand republicans sometimes..

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...did someone call Obama a moderate? God, I've missed you guys and your delusions.

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Fantastique wrote:
all I have to say is

palin.

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Politics generally falls in the same category as men and little girls.

Things I don't want to touch.


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palin 2012... cause the world is gonna end anyway
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Fantastique wrote:
I just dont understand republicans sometimes..

Reaganomics is supposed to stimulate the economy because with your family's massive tax cuts, they're supposed to buy more shit created by the unwashed masses. Of course, it never works out that way.

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...did someone call Obama a moderate?

You should look up Kucinich. He's what I'd call a real progressive.


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I've played Sim City. I know lowering taxes will stimulate economic growth but, as the downside, the deficit would grow if spending is unchecked. Creating growth is how the government creates revenues with lowered taxes.
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Eturnalshift has my vote for 2012
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Eturnalshift wrote:
I've played Sim City. I know lowering taxes will stimulate economic growth but, as the downside, the deficit would grow if spending is unchecked. Creating growth is how the government creates revenues with lowered taxes.


See the problem with cutting taxes is that really, only the top 1-2% see actual benefits from it. For example, after the Bush tax cuts I think my parents received like $600 extra dollars from their tax returns. Not exactly ground breaking or something that would make them really stimulate the economy with a purchase (as in buying a car or home or something)

I feel like the "trickle-down" theory is a bit flawed. The idea that if the upper class has more money in their pocket they will "pass it down" just doesn't seem like it works in practice. All the upper class people I know will just stuff the extra money in their bank accounts or buy a porche or something. Not exactly things that would directly benefit someone working minimum wage.


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Azelma wrote:
Eturnalshift wrote:
I've played Sim City. I know lowering taxes will stimulate economic growth but, as the downside, the deficit would grow if spending is unchecked. Creating growth is how the government creates revenues with lowered taxes.


See the problem with cutting taxes is that really, only the top 1-2% see actual benefits from it. For example, after the Bush tax cuts I think my parents received like $600 extra dollars from their tax returns. Not exactly ground breaking or something that would make them really stimulate the economy with a purchase (as in buying a car or home or something)

I feel like the "trickle-down" theory is a bit flawed. The idea that if the upper class has more money in their pocket they will "pass it down" just doesn't seem like it works in practice. All the upper class people I know will just stuff the extra money in their bank accounts or buy a porche or something. Not exactly things that would directly benefit someone working minimum wage.


I have to agree. The concept of trickle-down is correct in theory just as much as (here it comes!) communism is correct in theory. If everyone does their part and greed plays no factor then the theory would work.

The idea of a "trickle-up" to me has a bit more of a basis in logic because of the thought process behind it. More money for the lower-end allows them to spend more. Most business owners are in the upper ends and the increased in spending also creates a bigger revenue for them. While there are flaws still, the basic idea to me has more merit than passing the money down the chain.
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The trickle-down theory works fine. When was the last time you had a poor person pay you for work? Tax cuts are also good for those because, when at the top, you're getting more money back which can be invested into R&D (for companies) which creates jobs... or the rich buy products... which create jobs (assuming the jobs are kept here in the states, which doesn't happen with high taxes, anyways.) Well, even if you buy foreign goods from a US retailer, a profit is made which can be turned into jobs.

The $600 helped your family in some way, some how. It was an extra $600 they otherwise wouldn't have had. You know where it would've gone if it wasn't given back to your parents (who paid taxes, anyways)? To sustain my pay for six hours one year ago. Yea. When I trolled the BH forums, my company was billing me out to the government for $100/hr. This new company, I believe, gets about $200K/yr for me, from the government. Hardly tax dollars well spent.
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Eturnalshift wrote:
When was the last time you had a poor person pay you for work?

Whenever a poor person buys any sort of good or service they're paying for someone's work.


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When I worked at Wendy's in high school, poor people were paying me all the time for work...I was making their dinners from the 99 cent menu.


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