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kaldorei wrote:
when they became a guild that even more people (former friends included) just became more un-approachable since said people became more elitist.

most organized Alliance guild I've ever raided with...I just felt like I couldn't fit in...DU is a pretty straightforward good guild when it comes to them being focused towards progression.

...we were all elitist haha....


There is a distinction here clearly lost on you.

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Except the three other Alliance guilds that didn't need to faction change to keep rolling...yet were too "elitist" for you the "elitist".


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kaldorei wrote:
rikkilake wrote:
<likes buttz> - likes buttz
<elitist butts> - needed to not do raids sunday in the early afternoon so i could have actually gotten gear


I like buttz.


your avatar is amazing btw

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kaldorei wrote:
<Decidedly Uncouth> - II just felt like I couldn't fit in. The environment in there felt pretty tense mostly after some ex- Food Network people joined after I did and just annoyed the hell out of me.
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kaldorei wrote:
rikkilake wrote:
<likes buttz> - likes buttz
<elitist butts> - needed to not do raids sunday in the early afternoon so i could have actually gotten gear


I like buttz.

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My opinion of RM is that they're entirely stable, though the raids feel really slow-paced because of all the hand-holding that has to be done for some fights. Nice people, I just have a differing opinion of what a raid should be like.

Enrage Inc is cool, I've played with a few of the people there as far back as magtheridon progress with Angry Beavers. From what I've heard about their loot system it's slightly frustrating to come in as a recruit, as they've basically got a line behind every item and they already know who's getting it in what order.

DU is probably the most lackluster example of Nazi guild/raid leading I've ever seen. "your battle res doesn't belong to you, it belongs to the raid leader". Gkicking people because they screwed up practice for anub hardmode on the unbroken floor above. They go through recruits like they have as many apps as premonition, and it'll bleed them out eventually if they don't fix it. Like Aestu said, they've played on multiple servers but they seem to have fixed the issues this time around. After all this crap, they're still relatively low-ranked for how they act.

Borderline Amazing seems pretty cool, another guild started by someone because they wanted to get something done. Aestu probably thinks really highly of them with some inclusion of the phrase "get the ball rolling" (not poking fun, just the best way i can explain it).

Tasty Beverage seems like they're nice people if you don't approach them as an asshole. If you apply and constantly harass them about it, you'll get shit for it. If you apply, don't meet their standards, talk to an officer about it and drop it, you're probably fine. The problem is that their standards are full 277 gear right now, as they're within 5% of a heroic LK kill. I don't think they had anything to do with Tempest transferring. There was a thread on Tempest's forums about transferring because of lag as soon as january.

When I think of Twisted I think of Gilfang, who had more +healing than me at level 60 by stacking cloth. Jerk. At least I had more mp5 than everyone but Tiranda.


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And now for my Horde side review, which I know quite a bit better than the alliance side:

Cynical : New guild to the server as I remember. I believe they transferred right around the same time that Tempest left...so I guess that isn't too new. I have not had much interaction with the guild aside from a few pugs I get into of theirs on my alts. One night I went on an ULD25 with them to help one of their guys get his mace when they were advertising in trade a few of the guildies joined. Everyone seemed nice. No arguing in vent and everyone just relaxing with some old content. Their leader, Aelista, is a member of our guild forums and posts time to time and seems like a quality person. To be fair I must at least mention that they accepted M&H into the guild instantly turning their pugs into PRO pugs...so...whether that is good or bad is up to you.

Demoted : Do not have much interaction with this guild. They are what I call a "closed" guild. Sort of keep to themselves. Never see them pugging anything. They get the job done from the progression charts and the few members I have interaction with (pigvig...maybe thats it) seem decent enough.

Intolerance : Mixed feelings about them. They have some members that I like (Haed, Wraithum, Manpump, Malik, Kwiji)...and some that I just do not get a long with due to arrogance and foolish elitism. I have been on a few pugs raids with them and it, personal opinion here remember, just seemed unorganized. Sort of like there were about 10 people trying to lead the raid at the same time over top of each other. Mervinn I believe is tanking for them in some capacity and we have had a speaking relationship for some years now...talking time to time about tank theory, gear, etc. I cannot weigh in on how their guild raids go but I would hope their leadership dilemmas, as far as leading a raid go, are solved otherwise they may have some issues.

Weer : Another of what I would call a "closed" guild. LAtely I have seen them posting more for pug raids which is always nice. IMO pug raids are how you can get your guild name out there and increase the social aspect of the guild in the community. So it is great to see them more in trade than I remember in the past. Jim (articbear) is a great guy and I always enjoy chatting with him when we end up in the same pugs together somehow...on the exact same one of our toons. They have several other guildies that I speak to on a regular basis who are great people. Their pugs get the job done and are always a pleasure to be a part of. The only critique I would have about the pug raids is that sometimes they are not controlled enough and people start to run a muck...though that is often just a characteristic of pugs itself. IMO, and without being involved in the guild runs, WEER seems like a group of friendly guys and gals who enjoy playing together...and that environment makes everyone enjoy raiding. One of my most favorite horde guilds.

SG : An enormous guild I believe. The last I heard they charge a monthly fee as part of the guild but I believe that pays for forum access to a ton of games that the guild supports as well as vent access across all games. Struggling a bit on progression but I do LOVE the fact that they are not throwing in the towel about it. Do not have much interaction with any member of SG

The A Team : A guild started by Lasco who is an ex member of Hero Squad and a good guy. Many HS members are good friends with this guild and tend to run their alts with them. There seems to be a slight problem with leadership which is not a reflection on Lasco in particular, but more of what seems to be a lack of structure. This is, of course, just my opinion from an outside perspective and I have done no research as to find out specifics. Bottom line : Any guild where my guys enjoy raiding their alts, I give the thumbs up.

Esoteric : A guild of mixed feelings for me. Pyriel and I get along well and he is a member of the HS guild forums as well. I have had good experiences with Rukan as well. Unfortunately some of the other members and I have not gotten along as famously. In my experiences, I have had problems with some Esoteric members calling out raid members over vent about poor performance or dying to a silly raid mechanic. That is quickly corrected whenever it happens, but honestly it is bothersome that I need to make it clear that making fun of someone else over vent is not the way to handle things. As a conclusion, I think Pyriel is a decent guy, I get along with a handful of other members who frequent my pugs...but as a general impression of the guild I have really seen only confrontational and verbally abusive members of the guild in the raids I have run with them.

Totem Totem Totem : A good friend guild of Hero Squad. The first pug I ever did was with Shame in BC and he is actually the first person to call me Henq ("Hank"), which h as stuck ever since. The guild has some incredibly talented players who are fiercely loyal to Shame and the guild, which is a very attractive characteristic. They have been in the rebuilding stages lately to reform their raid and continue progressing. I think they will get there, it will just take some time to find the right people for the job. Their vent is always friendly and mature, which I adore. Shame does tend to have some crazy strats when it comes to raid mechanics, but they end up getting the job done, so what can you say? Overall this guild is A+ and I am happy that HS and TTT members can be seen interspersed through out the two guilds pugs runs on the weekends.

Usual Suspects : Unfortunately I can't say only good things about every Horde guild. I just, absolutely, do not get along with this guild. I do believe Shelbz used to play there, or still does, and I never had a problem with her. HS also has a great guild member, Veroth, that came from US. So not ALL of their members fall under my opinion of them, but a majority from what I have seen. I have never heard so much racism and homophobic comments as I have in their vent. They are openly aggressive when I have commented on that type of behavior in the past. I don't know. Ace and I have never had issues but I just can't condone that raid environment.

Zerglings : The bad with the good. Not bad as in ability but I have just run into some nasty people from that guild in the past. However, they do have one person in the guild who is in my top 5 favorite people to have ever played with, MR. MikeWizowski. He is the only reason that guild even gets a passing grade from me.

Tempest : My opinion on their leaving the server has been stated a few times so I won't beat a dead horse. I always enjoyed playing with a few of their members. Most notably Snuss, Crebane, and Watercress. I did appreciate the humor from some of the other guys and never really had a problem with them. For a while many of their members had a severe elitist complex that was bothersome. I think the guild is comprised of many exceptional players, unfortuantely with any group like that, you are going to have a few assholes strewn about.

Hero Squad : I will try not to be biased here as I am obviously the GM. Hero Squad is #1 a friend guild, and #2 a progression guild. We have fun foremost and if bosses drop that is just a bonus. I take great pride in the fact that our guild does not tolerate racist, homophobic, or sexually harassing remarks (towards our female players...muerte is open season). We have some incredibly talented players in the guild who prefer to play with us because of the atmosphere rather than move to a top25-top50 guild. Shavyah in particular has been approached by 2 top15 US guilds to join their ranks but prefers playing where he is. That environment that we have built, the brotherhood of the members, is my favorite thing about the guild...and unfortunately sometimes it is what holds us back.



Anyways, those are my opinions of the Horde side guilds and I apologize if I have left anyone off, these are the ones that popped into my head while I was writing
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I wanted to add one more thing to my previous post but figured it may go unnoticed it edited in.

I don't feel I was completely honest about Hero Squad

The one other downfall the guild has, and has always had, is that if one particular member of the guild is out of town on business, or has some real life things to take care of...the guild tends to be skittish about raiding. Not that we haven't done it in the past, we have 2 people, who are officers that take over in those circumstances...but not in the same way as when the usually raid leader is around.

This has been a critique of ours in the past by an ex guild member named Julie, who I believe is alliance side now and named Vu. And if I am being completely honest with myself about the guild, it is 100% accurate.
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if you get involved in drama in RM, i would bet a lot of money you caused it and are the only reason it exists.


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Zaryi wrote:
Callysta wrote:
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group of girls who just.plain.suck.at.everything concerning their performance in relation to their gear level. (Like how the hell does so and so have so much epics but can't even


This is Kissi with regards to "who's playing when the xpac launches" on the Dissension forums.

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My head hurts trying to read that.


it's so hilarious though.


i can't help but read it in kissi's voice, which makes it even more awesome.


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Dissension : I never knew them while they were an active guild. Which may be unfortunate. All of the dealings I have had with ex disession members have been good. Aqlo, Aethera, Rosjin...all were disenssion at one point I beleive. All are currently or were in Hero Squad and are/were upstanding guys. A pleasure to play with. Boredalt is a member of the guild and he single handedly makes this guild the one I would join if I was ever alliance. The guilds progression was hot in previous times and their members seems very solid. Two thumbs up



What a nice thing to say, however undeserved.

Despite the bashing that Dissension took from some corners, and the glee some felt at our disbanding, there were a ton of really great people in our guild who deserved nothing but respect. It was like a family. Any douchebags? You bet. But more than enough good to outweigh them. I was never an officer, because I never felt competent enough, but the officers listened to my counsel. Right or wrong, I was the one who started the movement to disband Dissension because I loved our guild, and didn't want to watch it die a slow death. We were still near the top of the server in progression, but it was time. So, I suggested we kill it, the officers talked it over, and just like that, it was over. And I still contend that we got more accomplished, in less raiding time, than any other guild on the server, at the time. But I'm most proud of the fact that we had fun.

I wish all of you could have experienced a BT raid on Dissension's vent. So hilarious. So fun. No subject too embarrassing to discuss in detail. I miss the hell out of the daily interaction with those people, but there's a place for euthanasia. Now, I still like everyone left in Dissension, and think the current leader is the best GM in the history of Bleeding Hollow. :P


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is this where we can discuss if Volition was in fact a good guild?


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is this where we can discuss if Volition was in fact a good guild?


Ima let you finish...but <Burn Boys> was the best guild of all time


OF ALL TIME...


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I only focused on guilds I was actually in, but I have one more:

RM - I really have nothing but good things to say about my interactions with them. I had a trial scheduled once, but stupidly decided to try out for a different guild. Had things been different, who knows.

My roommate (Tymora) who got me into WoW used to be in RM way back in Vanilla (I think Spas was GM back then). Anyway, he was cool and introduced me to RM people.

I started doing RM Funtimes back in TBC with Kameros. Boy was I nervous...I remember I got my first really good epic when we downed Doomwalker after a Mag run. I don't think I've ever been as excited for a purple since. I was such a noob, I didn't even have my mic keybound, so everyone heard me freak out and laughed at me. Hilarious in hindsight.


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is this where we can discuss if Volition was in fact a good guild?


Ima let you finish...but <Burn Boys> was the best guild of all time


OF ALL TIME...


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