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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 2:02 pm  
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oh yeah i wanted to post the Borderline Amazing tagline i came up with

Borderline Amazing: The guild I'd be in if I weren't already in a better one.

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i joined like all the guilds once i came back alliance.

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I have enjoyed reading this thread. I tend to agree with the idea that every guild has its nice people who know the ins and outs of diplomacy just as every guild has its loud/outlandish/harsh people. I try to be the nice guy for the most part. Just doesn't make sense to create tension where it isn't needed. I can't say i have had negative experiences with any of the guilds I've encountered on BH.

Maybe the fact i spent the whole BC expansion on a different server has kind of left me on the outside as far as BH politics go. This is probably same reason no one on the server knows me or remembers me from vanilla. =) When i think of BH guilds i still remember EC, BoP(much <3), RM and Bashers Inc to name a few. Guess I am just getting old.
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dek wrote:
i grouped with slideways once.


I did an UBRS with phaeth and slideways in it at the same time. Phaeth basically said "disregard the tank, just heal me" and we did it with a rogue tank.


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I am still the guild master of

<Pro at Shaman>

i forget who is in it though


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Aqlo wrote:
dek wrote:
i grouped with slideways once.


I did an UBRS with phaeth and slideways in it at the same time. Phaeth basically said "disregard the tank, just heal me" and we did it with a rogue tank.

some time at 60 i was in an ubrs group and our tank was busy raging that we didn't have a warlock in the group to summon him so our 8/8 t2 rogue started pulling and created enough threat to not lose aggro. this is also when rogues had like, 10,000% dodge without evasion up so i think i just pw:s + renewed him for trash



although my favorite ubrs story is when beergogglez raged over not getting the lightforge shoulders from rend so he hearthed(to rachet i think). he then spent however long it toon to walk back to ubrs and make it back to our group and still finished at #1 dmg done


edit: also, grats thegrimmgor on epic dagger


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Aqlo wrote:
dek wrote:
i grouped with slideways once.


I did an UBRS with phaeth and slideways in it at the same time. Phaeth basically said "disregard the tank, just heal me" and we did it with a rogue tank.


i miss phaeth

also, rogue tanking is fun.


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Twisted: Tits = gear. They have some quite good players but can't pull it together for reasons I don't fully understand.


For the former part of your statement, that's never really been the case, although at one point we did have quite a few e-whores all at once (early BC). They weren't all compensated with loot. Things and raid makeup have vastly changed since then. Currently, I'd say one situation where this is probably the case shouldn't speak for the whole guild. As for the latter, we've had our own debates over this, such as the friend guild vs. raiding guild argument which probably assists in our impediment, especially since I feel we lean towards the friend aspect, and regardless of how much the officers or any raiding member bitches, no one wants to be "the bad guy." With all the dissenting amongst the ranks and some straight up bitterness, we eventually get things done at some point.

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<twisted> - kumi never invited me for anything at 70 and they are forever judged for it

You tell me how I'm supposed to convince the higher-ups to carry a bad who wants to AFK Sunwell. Sorry :[ I'll do any level 70 dungeons you want now.

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Can't say that's the first time I've ever heard this charge.

Azelma, you were the first to bring that up as your own personal assessment in your post on the BH realm forums. Which at the time I felt was bullshit, and if I read it again to refresh my memory I'd probably still agree, since you were in the guild I think all of a week. Hearsay is hearsay.

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From my experience, there are two types of girls who play this game. Those who fall into your category (genuinely want to be the best they can be, are actually good, and therefore deserving of gear/raid spots) and those who simply use the fact that they have vajayjays and b00bs, and happen to play a game with a bunch of horny losers, in order to get carried through everything etc.

Unfortunately Kal, as women go, I think there are more of the other kind

I'm inclined to agree with you here, and it annoys the shit out of me. :/

If I come back with more time I'll write my own review of the guilds.


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I've been a whole lot less active in guild politics recently as my spy network has somewhat diminished and I've stopped telling my remaining field agents to give me reports, so I'll to what I've got personal experience with.

Guild Disbanded - this guild of griefers, total bastards, and otherwise unforgivable sons of bitches was probably the most fun I ever had playing this game. We didn't make it to BC intact because most of the players quit and we never raided past ZG/AQ20 anyway, but the point was never loot, it was us versus them. My favorite thing about GD was being able to defend any position a guild member took, no matter how ridiculous it was, and getting a rise out of everyone. The inventors of ForumCraft, the way it was supposed to be. My loyalty to this guild was the equivalent of LOYALTY TO MAZELTOV only to the power of 10, because Demented was a billion times more fun than Mazel could ever hope to be. Most of you would have hated us, and we'd have totally deserved it.

SG - joined after GD fell apart because of Imatuhl and Gulaja. I spent 13 months in this guild, and I simultaneously loved and hated it. From the look of things, they're in the same spot now as they were then, painfully mediocre raiders who throw endless numbers at the problem until it dies and drops loot. Some of the same people are there, and generally they're older though no less prone to silliness and drama. I was the rogue officer, and this is when I was probably at my most politically-correct and image-conscious (for the sake of the guild) phase.

Exlint Gentlemen - Those few from this guild that haven't quit or transferred are mostly in <We Are The End> now, but this was the pinnacle of a BH PvP guild. Unfortunately, the original intent was to populate it with people who were "exlint" rather than with douchebag PvPers, so Mathia disbanded it on a whim one day, a course of action I agree with in retrospect.

Zerglings - It's significantly smaller now than it was in early WotLK when I was a member, though it failed to regain the significance it was shooting for. Lucke and Spoots were in this guild, Lucke being the nicest person I've ever met in WoW and Spoots being the server's best resto shaman bar none. At present, I don't know anyone left.

Tempest - Was with them from the last month of Tripler's reign to the last day they were on BH. The ones I was better friends with all jumped ship, so what I have to say about them isn't terribly relevant. Under the iron-fisted rule of Rabid, we did great things. We never lacked for drama, but for the most part it was more fun than painful. I honestly loved being a part of <Tempest> even after I'd stopped raiding.

Hero Squad - Which brings us to the present. My opinion of HS is that it's pretty much SG without paying for friends. The GM is a warrior who drinks during raids (like Apam was) and pretty much never gets angry (like Rabid), and there's more a concern with winning eventually and hanging out than with stacking the raid for the sake of progression. Positive review so far, even though my primary reason for joining (Fleetwood) has moved to uglier pastures.


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kumori wrote:
Azelma, you were the first to bring that up as your own personal assessment in your post on the BH realm forums. Which at the time I felt was bullpoopy, and if I read it again to refresh my memory I'd probably still agree, since you were in the guild I think all of a week. Hearsay is hearsay


I agree wholeheartedly, I was quite the asshat when I wrote that :) I don't think I was first to ever bring that up though. Maybe I invented the equation? I actually don't remember. lol


Kal did have some interesting things to say about certain friends getting loot over raiders as being the reason lots of vets left Twisted...you should look at her post earlier in this here thread.


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I've only had the privilege of being in three guilds on Bleeding Hollow (two if you count the ones still around today).

<HP> Was my first real guild, they're a group (or at least used to be) of people who have known each other for years from multiple games, and their priorities were always enjoying whatever they were doing with a big emphasis on brotherhood and friendship. I think that's probably what they still try to accomplish today, but it's been many years since I wore their tag over my warlock's head. They're good people, but I don't really recognize any of the names running around anymore.

<RM> I joined in the middle of TBC and they really have been a home for me, more than I can imagine finding anywhere else on this server or any other server. I've been an officer since BT, and while it really does change the game when you take up a position like that in a raiding guild I wouldn't have changed the way it worked out for anything. The officer core has changed many times since I was first promoted, some people take to it well and some people failed to realize that it actually requires work and effort to manage something like RM.

The funniest thing about it is, before I was a part of the guild and before I had any friends from inside the guild, I really disliked RM. They seemed like a bunch of arrogant outspoken assholes-- and I think that we still have that reputation today to varying degrees. But what I learned once I became a member is, like other guilds on this server, it only takes one or two people out of 30 or so otherwise very modest and likable people to create a bad reputation. Do we have a few people who are asshats? Yes. Do we have even more players who are talented, modest, friendly, and good natured? Indeed we do. Unfortunately the loudest ones are usually the jerks, and despite the officers trying to keep them under control stupid shit still happens.

As Dek mentioned though, if there's drama in RM it's because you're the one starting it. Drama in RM is short lived and usually gets resolved quickly without much commotion, but it can and has often been explosive and grabs a lot of attention. I appreciate the server's interest in our guild drama and I'm glad it is able to entertain so well, but as you can see we survive and move forward. We will always have a little drama, some of it will be fantastic drama, but I do not doubt we will always be able to successfully overcome and work through it all.

That's one of the great things about RM, we've survived so long and still manage to not fall too hard. People have left before with the flattering intention of showing us what's what, and creating something of a Utopian guild where they themselves are in charge and have run into the same problems they sought to escape. Some have dealt with them well and are still around, others are on the brink of collapse or have already failed. The positive thing about any of these little schisms is that it always relieves drama for RM and we end up in a better place.

RM may have some shortbus riders, some of our strats may be designed for the lowest common denominator, and yes our raids have a lot of idle time spent working out the stupid things that come up in the middle of raids. But we're more than just raiders we're also some sort of fucked up family, and anyone who has lasted long enough in the guild (and not left in emo tears) can vouch for that.

In regards to Isamoo's mace, it's not a big deal. The guild gives him a hard time over it but it was never anything serious. My mace was actually the first mace to be completed, it was actually done at the same time as Dissension's mace, and I'm still around and I still use it. I've been using it every raid night since it was created. No one in the guild harbors ill will towards Isamoo for his swap in mains, he's a valuable member of the raid team and a strong officer. Most of the silliness over the issue is from outside the guild, and I doubt even much of that started out as anything more than good natured banter. He is, after all, still here-- still an active member of the guild, still dealing with all the stupid drama that an officer has to deal with, still attending raids and managing the casters and leading raids and motivating people to push themselves harder.




TLDR: RM is full of jerks and really awesome people with awesome personalities. Drama is dumb but entertaining. RM survives and outlasts. Isamoo smells funny. Kamguh is fat. Nfar can't read. Bigchief is drunk. Thelm is The Original Fat.


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In case you didn't read all of Akiina's post....

@Aestu, We actually only ever got 2 Val'anyr's. Our 3rd was planned to go towards Kanaan, but Ulduar ended before he could even get double digits for fragments. The first was Akiina and as stated above she still uses it, and the second went to Isamoo. We also were the ones that asked Isamoo to use his shadow priest for fights (Anub'arak P3 was sigh ezier with VE) which eventually led to him changing mains due to us being able to recruit a resto in his place AND the fact he was able to top meters on his priest even when not geared from main raid.



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p.s. All the lovin here makes me feel all warm inside... fat fat fat I eat fat


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I want to know how i have never been in a guild with yuratuhl.

even when i was horde.


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Usdk wrote:
I want to know how i have never been in a guild with yuratuhl.

even when i was horde.

i have only played horde on bleeding hollow and have never been in a guild with him
do not fret, good sir


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