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Except you have to actually throw it in his mouth to complete the quest so you wouldn't have completed anything. I am not going to argue about it man...YOU ARE RIGHT! I unbound my fragments, deleted 5 of them, and rejoiced when having to go back to Ulduar on my Saturdays to farm 5 more.

POWER TRIP!

Defenestrate-Priest <Gong Show>
Isamoo-Druid <Noodle House>
Allegiant-Paladin <Noodle House>
Isamu-DK <RM>....30 seconds away from deletion.
MCPeePants-Warrior <Gong Show>

The first part of the quest chain is to simply turn the frags into the console. The console then starts the second part, which is to toss the frags into the mouth of Yogg.

If you've already handed in 30 frags, if you were to assemble another 30, when you attempt to start the quest, you'd get a "Quest Completed" message. If you lost the frags you were supposed to throw into Yogg - the quest item on the second part - you could simply drop the quest and re-acquire it from the console.

Not only is power tripping and compulsive lying part of your pattern of behavior, your story isn't even physically possible.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

but your entire argument is based on assumptions.

you assume you know all the factors at play at the time. you assume you know all the details. you assume you even know the quest isn't bugged when you haven't done it.

you assume a lot and know little. which is why your opinion is considered to be vacuous.

edit: as the old wisdom goes, an intelligent person is most keenly aware of what he does not know. this is an awareness you seem to entirely lack. take from that what you will.

Akina: bitch I will stab you in the face

And you are making the assumption an unknown variable is at work.

So Isamoo got a version of the quest totally different than the one on Wowhead? What don't I know?

We have his story and the known facts that don't correlate with it.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

And we have you, who knows NOTHING about the event other than complete second hand knowledge that was from a joke inside the guild. Accusing someone of behavior that never happened. Whose the e-thug again?

Oh, for the record.

Once Isamoo lost the fragments, in whatever manner happened. He didn't force the guild to do anything to help him. In fact he got the last of his shards in an optional weekend GDKP that I ran during Ulduar. So him power-tripping as you claim he did, would've meant that he would then have made the guild do Ulduar for his fragments.

I know Isamoo's story because he's stated it.
I know how the quest works because all such quests work this way and the particulars of the quest are viewable on Wowhead.

Anyone can see clearly there is a discrepancy between the two.



That's part of his pattern of behavior. He enjoys philandering on the one hand and abusive behavior on the other. Some people are like that; this gives them a feeling of power - they feel elevated that they are able to get in others' graces and get them to do what they want, then remain stubbornly uncooperative in small ways with others.

If you want to have an alternate opinion of his character that's fine by me. Regardless, his story and the mechanics of the quest don't line up.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

That oddly sounds a shit ton like you. Being nice, running pugs and offering up gold for the rare drops. But the real reason you run anything is to get something that you want. Yet whenever you join a guild you get kicked out fairly quickly. Assuming it's because of your stubborn uncooperative behavior.

Is this the part where we start chanting "fight, fight, fight"?

you are truly obtuse.

i am not assuming anything, as i haven't said what i believe to have happened one way or the other. i am simply stating that you do not know what variables were at work.

you have his story (or your understanding of it, probably tainted by your preconception of it) and "the known facts" (which is only the quest text that you pulled off of wowhead... congratulations). and in between is a chasm of the question.

and you fill that chasm without bothering to prove any of it, and for that matter being completely unable to prove any of it. you lack any evidence beyond the circumstantial.

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let me put it to you this way. when i was leveling my paladin in icecrown, i got to a step in a quest chain where i was supposed to go kill a named mob that was supposed to spawn. the mob didn't spawn. i submitted a ticket and the GM spawned the mob for me, but for a period i was in a situation where i had done the prerequisites for a quest, but could not complete it.

the quest text (the known facts) stated that he would spawn.

according to your logic, i made the mob not spawn. according to your logic, the only possible explanation, giving that i had done the prequest, and had not completed that quest, was user error.

but it was game error. i hadn't done anything to hit that roadblock.

apparently, there can be things that happen in this game that you won't find in the quest text on wowhead.

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i don't know what happened with isamoo, but i do know that everyone that was actually there is in complete agreement that your conclusion about what happened is entirely wrong.

if this were a court of law, you would lose to the overwhelming evidence of dozens of primary witnesses.

i'm just wondering how long you will take to admit you don't know what you're talking about.

Akina: bitch I will stab you in the face

Only if you form a circle and get a bunch of other people chanting as well

He's been in Gwen Stefani for awhile and was with us for a good few months.

(though how anyone could enjoy being in Gwen Stefani is beyond me)

If destruction exists, we must destroy everything.
Shuruppak Yuratuhl
Slaad Shrpk Breizh

I bet Aestu wouldn't! ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

This is a case study in nihilism being a copout.

You deny it's possible to know the truth because you want to stick to your opinion when the facts contradict them.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Anyone who's ever done anything with me knows I show integrity and generosity when I have no reason to.

What's the price tag on a few shards, or making a point of being non-responsive, or of annoying someone needlessly?

Since the material profit is small, nil, or even negative, I therefore reason the motive is emotional in nature.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.