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And you deny it's possible that there was a glitch in wow and instead Isamoo did it on purpose because of your assumptions about him. Funny how your arguments mirror yourself a shit ton



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That's like the "glitch" that made some guy stand in the void zone that totally didn't hit him.

What glitch? What didn't work as it should?

Simple question:
If Isamoo's story is true...why did he not just drop the quest then re-accept it from the console?

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Isamoo looted 30 shards (yes we have loot tracking for that), completed the quest(saw the turn in). Item disappeared

GMs refunded 25 shards, <--- Explain this please

Is Isamoo now powertripping and telling GMs to not refund him all the shards?

Just drop it..he is right, and everyone else is wrong. I would argue more on the point, but it is just dragging into something completely ridiculous.

"flame wars that drag on for too long" <considering the length on this is counted in years...just drop it.

Defenestrate-Priest <Gong Show>
Isamoo-Druid <Noodle House>
Allegiant-Paladin <Noodle House>
Isamu-DK <RM>....30 seconds away from deletion.
MCPeePants-Warrior <Gong Show>

no, i simply deny you know the truth because you have absolutely no evidence to support your argument beyond the circumstantial and heresay.

i'm positive it's possible to know the truth, because i'm positive several people know it.

they just all disagree with you.


edit: you must understand, you are only allowing two possible outcomes to this:
1) you are right
2) no one is right

that is the epitome of a false choice.

Akina: bitch I will stab you in the face

That is not what he said.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

We have Isamoo's story.
We have the facts of how the quest works.

They cannot be reconciled.

Why should we reject the possibility Isamoo is lying?

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Sorry about semantics, by completed the quest i meant he turned it in at the console after council

Isamoo's story:
Obtained 30 shards
Turned in 30 shards
Did not toss item into Yogg'Saron mouth yet
Logged out
Logged in, item gone
GMs restored 25/30 shards

Facts of how the quest works:
Obtained 30 shards
Turn in 30 shards
Toss item into Yogg'Saron Mouth
Loot item from Yogg'Saron
Turn in looted item for legendary

(forgive me if the quest progression is wrong as I haven't done the quest myself and only seen it done)

Let's see... there seems to be a problem around the time of tossing item into yogg saron mouth... Then Isamoo gets screwed over by GMs not refunding fragments (IF HE DELETED THEM THEY COULD'VE SEEN ALL 30 AND RESTORED ALL 30)

So, my thoughts would follow this logically as. There seemed to be some issue with Isamoo's quest line causing it to not think he had 30 shards, which also appeared when GMs were attempting to look at logs. IIRC when he spoke to a GM they said they had corrupted logs from certain dates and couldn't award fragments for those days because they weren't sure.

Aestu, your accusation has no merit, your knowledge of the situation is completely second hand

Except that's not how it works.

When you get 30 [item]Fragment of Val'anyr[/item], you can combine them into the [item]Shattered Fragments of Val'anyr[/item]. This item starts a quest, which ends at the Archivium Console. The console then gives you a NEW quest, for which [item]Unbound Fragments of Val'anyr[/item] - what you actually throw into Yogg's mouth - is provided.

Like any such quest with a provided item, if the item were to disappear, he could drop the quest and get another one.

If the GM restored some frags and he made another quest item, if he attempted to use it, it would give the Quest Completed message.

His story is not consistent with the mechanics of the quest.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

No matter how much you plug your ears and scream "ISAMOO IS A LIAR AND AN ETHUG" doesn't make your thoughts true.

Something happened with the quest item, with the quest in his log, and with the GMs in restoring the item. Did you ever stop to think that the GMs, since they couldn't restore all 30, undid the quest from his character so he could do it again?

Dek, all yours if you want to continue.

But like you yourself said...there's no reason to believe that, is there?

Why should we believe something so contrived...that there is no reason to believe...and reject the simple possibility he might be lying...when that would be more congruent with the facts?

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

KAMGUH is an E-thug

Aestu, stop being fucking retarded about this mace business.


Isamoo got all 30 shards with RM, there were 24 other people in the raid when it happened, plus others in guild chat, who congratulated him when he was looted the final shard.

I was actually there, I SAW HIM TURN IN THE QUEST AT THE STUPID PLACE BEHIND IRON DWARFS. Now, since I actually have my mace and completed the first one for RM I know what it's supposed to look like.

He had the quest item to throw into Yogg's mouth that night. When he logged on to do the actual quest some days later, he no longer had it.

Why? Who the hell knows, stupid shit happens in this game all the time.
Ticket went in, 25 shards came back. Twenty five. Why? I don't know. No one knows, but that's what happened.

Just because you have an intense dislike for Isamoo doesn't mean that what I saw never happened, it doesn't mean that the 24 other people in the raid who witnessed him getting his 30th shard are liars.

Anything said about it from his FRIENDS INSIDE OR OUTSIDE THE GUILD or by himself MAKING FUN OF HIS OWN SITUATION in any channel in this game is just that-- people that like him giving him a hard time. That's what friends do when they're actually friendly with each other. You see, people can do this because they know the person is only pretending to be an asshole, so they don't take offense to it.

What you seem to have done is misinterpreted the friendly "lol isamoo deleted his shards" and taken it for a fact. You now seem to be doing everything you can to support this. You're wrong.

Isamoo may be an asshat sometimes, and probably is more often to people who he just doesn't get along with.You don't like him, he doesn't like you-- fight about hurt feelings between you two all you want. But drop all this stupid crap about the mace.

Akiina - Priest - Royal Militia
Leeloo Minai Lekarariba-Laminai-Tchai Ekbat De Sebat

There's no worse feeling than that millisecond you're sure you are going to die after leaning your chair back a little too far.

Everything you said is worthless cause you are a girl