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Hey I get the whole, "this is meaningful to me" thing, and wanting some permanent reminder of something really important. We had those when I was kid. We called them pictures.

Now, I'm just griefing you on that one, but it seems to me that a lot of these people who get tats for w/e satisfaction they get out of them, like a reminder of lasting moments, are just your average modern disconnected-from-life individual. They wanna be like the guys in the movies without actually having to be like the guys in the movies. I don't need that, and therefore don't get the people that do. Most of the "permanent reminders" of "meaningful events" that are indelibly stamped on my body are fugly scars from things I'd just as soon forget. One of the big reasons I don't go out and tan in the summer (besides my natural aversion to sunlight and being up being up before the crack of noon) is that a lot of those scars have faded, but a good tan always highlights them.

I did the whole "tough guy/action hero" thing. There's always a tougher or...more active????...guy out there. I don't need the reminder, especially now that all the action and adventure and really wild things has left me with a body that sounds like a box of Rice Krispies when I wake up in the morning. If it takes a slap of ink to make somebody feel like something they aren't...well, it doesn't matter how you feel, you still aren't what you idolize. Wasting your money and time on a feeling when you could be wasting it on becoming your fantasy seems pretty silly to me.

And people that do it to make themselves feel better about themselves...man. If that's the case they got more problems than barrels of ink can possibly cure.

Your Pal,
Jubber

AKA "The Gun"
AKA "ROFeraL"

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yeah you're just not getting it. it's cool. different worlds and all.

Did no one mention implants yet?

I was going to bring it up but then I thought I'd start something and regret it.

Akiina - Priest - Royal Militia
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My problem with most of the opinions of the people against tattoo's seem to be jaded with the era they have grown up in.

I am, I guess what you could call 'the younger crowd', I am only 23. So I grew up with tattoos being much more socially acceptable vs the people born 10 years before me stamp women who have tattoos with a whore or slut title. This just isn't true and in fact by your own admission there are far more sluts that have no tattoos that those that do.

So in essence you are conforming to what your group of society decides is okay. Were you to grow up and everyone was covered in tattoos you wouldn't feel the same.

Here is a perfect example. 20 years ago homosexuality was so frowned upon that it was hidden as if you were a leper. Now it is on public display with such blatant disregard for those that were from that time.

I guess what I am trying to say is the younger crowd will lose the caring or un-attracted feeling towards 'tatted' up women or men because it is socially acceptable now.

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Since the only type of men who would want their woman to get those are maladjusted retards who should be removed from the gene pool and forcibly restrained from breathing my air, the only reason women get implants is because they want to do so.

If someone feels the need to have themselves cut open so someone can stuff them like a teddy bear, there is something going on there that is not as it should be.

Your Pal,
Jubber

AKA "The Gun"
AKA "ROFeraL"

World Renowned Mexican Forklift Artiste

I'd rather you have small naturals than big skin bags.

Seems a lot of times it has to do with a self-esteem issue. So I definitely agree with you there.

The guys who generally talk their significant others into this are a-holes. If you get with a woman it isn't right to try and form them into something they aren't. If the woman wants it for her own reasons it is different. But I don't think any guy should try to talk a woman into it.

It would like turn her away or make her self-esteem drop, guys like that should diaf.

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It's like some chick asking you to take pills to make your dick longer. Big slap in the face.

Breast reconstruction is an amazing thing, especially for breast cancer survivors (like my godmother).

Pure cosmetic "omg I need bigger boobs" surgery is a little different imo. I think most of it has to do with the images of the "ideal" that men and women in our modern society are exposed to. Magazines, television, porn, movies, etc. have some pretty unnatural bodies being showcased, several of which have been under the knife more than once. Kids grow up thinking that's natural and then get upset when they don't look the same way when they get older. This also seems to create unrealistic expectations about defying gravity and aging. It's all in their heads, but it's something the media creates.

Akiina - Priest - Royal Militia
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There's no worse feeling than that millisecond you're sure you are going to die after leaning your chair back a little too far.

Let's give women a little more credit, because I would wager that the percentage of women who have breast augmentation just to "please their man" is very low. Sure, it is an ancillary benefit, but most women do it primarily for themselves, and if it improves their self-image, I say it is fine. Also, there are many sizes of implants. Contrary to what many might believe, most women don't have EE implants stuffed into them. And, while were talking about this, a lot of women get reductions, as well.

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Innit odd how us guys can see how wrong that "turn your significant other into another person" thing is, yet it seems to be S.O.P. for the female part of the populace?

I don't need a new shirt, baby. I know my clothes are all black and tan, and I don't have any "color." It's because I DON'T FUCKING LIKE TO WEAR COLORS.

Now be a dear, and bring me a beer.

Your Pal,
Jubber

AKA "The Gun"
AKA "ROFeraL"

World Renowned Mexican Forklift Artiste

Eh clothes are overrated.

Akiina - Priest - Royal Militia
Leeloo Minai Lekarariba-Laminai-Tchai Ekbat De Sebat

There's no worse feeling than that millisecond you're sure you are going to die after leaning your chair back a little too far.

Agree agree agree.

I like perky natural boobs personally.

I'm cool with implants, mainly because nature makes some women look like 12 year old girls.

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