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Science can only work with the observable. Anything outside the observable is nothing more than theories and speculation in science since, without observation, you can't have a fact. Much like the existence of God can't be proven or disproven... neither can any other theory on Creation or Evolution.

I've realized that part of our problem is we assume our current understanding of science, and physics, is right. Is it right because we say it's right? Is it right because we have an idea then struggle to find a way to prove that idea is right? We still don't know all the physical properties that exist in the universe since there is still a lot of theory to physics. We are assuming that humanity, God and the universe are bound by the same physical laws...

How does this affect the teaching of Creationism or other religious ideas in science classes? The existence of evolution is a scientific fact - we understand the basics very well, the core theories have been tested repeatedly and are well supported, and we have even observed examples of it in the field and in the lab. The origins of life are not well understood, but they are still amenable to scientific examination - we may never be able to prove which processes actually occurred historically, but we can test and eliminate theories that wouldn't work, and demonstrate the feasibility of ones that would. If schools teach about the origins of life they should certainly teach the alternative scientific theories (and there are plenty), but Creation by a specific God is not a scientific theory - it can't be tested, there is no possible means of falsification, and it can't lead to any greater understanding of the phenomenon.

You're right, my bad. Evolution could be taught and both Theists and Atheists can appreciate it for what it's worth... a product of a God or RNG. Evolution does exist, but the reasoning behind it is still theory, correct?

Why evolution occurs is pretty simple. There is a theoretical state known as Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium where no evolution occurs in sexually reproducing populations. It depends on a few conditions being true: no mutation, no selection on different alleles, random mating, and an infinitely large closed population. If any of these conditions is not true in a population (and any natural population will violate at least one of them), evolution is mathematically inevitable. Our understanding of how evolution proceeds does consist of theories - such as natural selection, sexual selection, and genetic drift. However, these are theories in the scientific sense - they are well-supported explanations for observations - not in the more common understanding of "theory" which is basically equivalent to "guess".

An interesting side note to this, is that as humans, we have caused a lot of areas of evolution to stop.

What I mean is:

Consider glasses. We have created glasses, laser surgery, and contacts to help people who have bad eyesight actually see.

Now, if we didn't do this, then people who couldn't see well would have much more difficulty surviving (seriously, I know some people who are basically blind without their glasses). They obviously would have difficulty finding mates (or even seeing them...nyuck nyuck)

However, because of glasses, these people are able to survive, meet mates, and make new generations of people with bad eyesight. Therefore, we are screwing up evolution. I have good eyes, so I don't care...but yeah.

That's how evolution works...no fairy tale involved. Just makes sense.

Hopefully the LHC experiments will give some insight to the creation of the universe, especially if scientists are able to discover the Higgs Boson. However, I'm not terribly knowledgeable about this process.

Brawlsack

Taking an extended hiatus from gaming

No, they won't.

http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/emerging-tech/2009/11/06/baguette-dropped-by-bird-causes-lhc-disruption-39863004/

That one was an homage to <Honk>.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/02/lhc_power_failure_again/

That one was at 01:23 swiss time.

That, converted to date as Julian, converted to Gregorian, is this Gregory's birthday.


If they wanted to find the so-called "God Particle" HB, they should've rolled a toon on BH.

oh yeah, concerning the Magi and the star of Bethlehem...




this is what occurred for them to "see" a "star" in the "heavens" and follow it like a "map".

so much wisdom was forgotten. such a shame.

tomorrow's physical cross alignment by all the planets should be ... interesting times.

note: this alignment is enclosed within a new moon ( begin, and ) new moon end.

fucking twilight.

speaking of Gregorian calendars...

216 is 6*6*6.

The 216th day of the year is August 4th.

Your president was born on that day.

I was too

not helping his case.

you'd be surprised at how much it did.

Cap'n Gregory M twenty four hours a day, twelve months a year, it's all about the sound, you're about to hear.
Day o' the Moon roundabouts 7:47 in the evenin' Mateys on'y · Weigh in · Arr!


Large Hadron Collider: scientists create sound of ‘God particle’
Sounds set to be made by the subatomic ‘God’ particle at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) have been simulated by scientists aiming to make the £6bn experiment more accessible.


By Alastair Jamieson
Published: 7:47AM BST 23 Jun 2010

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/large-hadron-collider/7848453/Large-Hadron-Collider-scientists-create-sound-of-God-particle.html