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I think Aestu was right here, and if what he posted was actually how it went down, then kudos to you. You were persistent but courteous and you got what you wanted.

Akiina - Priest - Royal Militia
Leeloo Minai Lekarariba-Laminai-Tchai Ekbat De Sebat

There's no worse feeling than that millisecond you're sure you are going to die after leaning your chair back a little too far.

Radiologist because I have been around it a lot, volunteering in that dept. at NIH and working as the manager of the Radiology Assistant program at Washington Hospital Center in DC has been an eye-opening experience and I love how interesting the field is. The fact that it pays well is a bonus, not a motive. Believe what you want. Re-constructive surgeon (note the wording here) because I want to give people who have had life-altering injuries a part of their life back. Examples include women in Pakistan and India who have had acid thrown on their face because they spoke out of turn, and people born with webbed feet and fingers due to birth defects. Again believe what you want. You tell people not to assume, and yet you do so yourself. k.

Perhaps you grew up surrounded by people who have taught you to view everything in a negative light. The vast majority of the docs I work with all love their work and love humanity. The fact that you view two very rewarding professions simply by their paychecks only leads me to believe that A) you are simply jealous that you will not make that kind of money (pathetic) or B) you just believe everything you hear on TV. And why hate them? Doesn't the world need all kinds, even the despicable ones such as yourself?

And no, I will not wipe my ass with someone who isn't a doctor, I will wipe my ass with arrogant, narcissistic assholes who have nothing but words to back up their outrageously elitist view of themselves (such as you). That clear up anything? Or are you really too stupid to understand my point?

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and if you watch from up where i'm standing...

it's all grinding gears.

I don't even own a TV.

My father is an MD. His specialty is infectious disease and he is intelligent and skilled enough to go into any branch. He is a high ranking official in Medi-Cal and has experience going back 30 years dealing with radiologists and other specialists from both the perspective of the general practitioner and the managed care expert. He's always had choice words regarding radiologists and it's no mystery why.

My uncle is an attorney. He is one of the most prominent attorneys in his specialty in New England and worked with Ralph Nader.

Considering I have four professors who volunteered at their initiative to write letters of recommendation and every expectation that I can blow up the GSAT, I'm really not that worried about a 2.8 GPA crippling my life. I don't quite believe that because my GPA isn't half a point higher I'm going to be consigned to pushing a shopping cart all my life. It seems you are projecting your own insecurity onto others.



This isn't a job interview or a app letter. I don't need to know you in real life, or to have powers of telepathy, or to have proof beyond a reasonable doubt to know that your PC bullshit is just that.

You aren't going to be spending your career in intellectual awe of the marvels of radiology or helping poor people in India. You'll probably clock punch doing some volunteer work, but what really motivates you is money and status, whether you're willing to admit it - even to yourself - or not.

If you could earn more dough and respect pursuing a career in phrenology, of course you'd give us some morally superior bullshit about how you're on a quest to help the world while coincidentally getting paid obscene sums for work that could be done by a tech.



Really? Seems like that's you. You're saying I'm screwed in life because I have a 2.8 GPA. Totally screwed! Should just kill myself now. And you? You'll be king of the world, getting paid millions to perform reconstructive surgery on oppressed Indian peasant women. Doesn't that seem a bit, well, elitist, arrogant, self-righteous, delusional? Isn't your entire argument that you are convinced you will be wealthier, morally superior, better smelling than others, based on what - your intuition?

You didn't answer my question.

What makes you so sure?

I'll say it's pretty ironic I started this thread depressed, but there's no one more credible than the devil's advocate pushing a crock to convince you that the grass isn't greener and my life isn't over for want of a quarter point of GPA and because some avaricious WoW player who works at Blockbuster is convinced I'm a terrible human being.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Just you, I respect everyone here except you.



Dough = bonus, satisfaction is the motive. Already stated this, you sound like an idiot trying to argue this point over the Internet, lol



Just like your "morally superior bullshit" about cleaning up the oil? lol sorry, but I am not an angry buttface who spends all day on a computer trying to make others just as miserable. I am ever the optimist and humanitarian, as anyone who knows me will tell you. But again, you sound like an idiot trying to make assumptions about someone you don't know.



Kill yourself, yes, but not just because you are screwed, but because you are a blight upon humanity, as I have stated before. And my intentions and dreams for my future professional life are what they are. You asked, but you can't seem to wrap your mind around it because such compassion and caring for others is not possible for you. After all, aren't the people I plan to save just human filler? Probably even lower? lol Aestu, you're losing your touch.



Nope, my past successes in almost everything I have done. Simple question, simple answer.



See above, and I had made this answer quite clear throughout this thread, you urchin.

Aestu, I would love to continue this battle of wits with you, but you are obviously unarmed, save for that thesaurus you keep running to. How about you take a break from your brain-draining mount farming, collect yourself, and take some time to compose yourself in an nonabrasive manner when referring to people such as Callysta and I, and when speaking about our professions? Maybe then we can have a civil discussion.

PS - see how I answered your bits with clear and concise sentences? Try that instead of googling words, slapping random adjectives together, and then spewing the inane dribble all over your computer screen.

PPS - You started it.

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I'd say everyone's equally guilty of using words they don't need to be using to obscure simple points. Arguing over language use is flagrant hypocrisy on everyone's part at this juncture.

Just so we're clear, most of you are bright enough that you're not running to a thesaurus to impress over the internet. Stop assuming your opponents are retards, because that would mean you're just making yourselves feel better by picking on retards.

I'm not going to tell you to play nice, because that's not my job. I am going to tell you to stop playing stupid, though. And that goes for all of you.

If destruction exists, we must destroy everything.
Shuruppak Yuratuhl
Slaad Shrpk Breizh

Never for a moment did I claim that my motive in wanting to clean up oil or go to the war countries was to help people. You say I made such a claim - show me where. I've always said my motives are to seek experience and adventure and self-aggrandizement, I've never bothered maintaining a pretense of philanthropy outside an institutional setting. You're projecting.



You don't have "professions". You have empty ambition, which, like my own, hasn't come to fruition for want of age and experience. Like me you obviously think yourself superior to those around you - if you didn't why would you think yourself rational in harboring such ambition? Why would you apparently regard your ambition as a sure deal and not something you are merely hoping for whether you're actively working on it or not?

You say "people such as". Case in point - like talking about MENSA or selflessly helping oppressed Indian women, you're talking out of both sides of your mouth in maintaining this notion of your own elitism. That you believe this is in and of itself fine; what is not is that it is hypocritical.

Again, realistically you have no interest in "helping" others. I do not need to prove this, it is eminently apparent, and even you won't deny that after you've done what you need to do to get through med school, your focus will be on pulling down the big bucks. Are you going to spend five hours a day in general practice for people who can't afford medical care? You certainly would still more than get by. Or are you going to spend the overwhelming majority of your time charging extortionate prices for expensive procedures to the relative elite that can afford them? If radiology and surgery paid as much as being a librarian, would you still work in those fields? If you had a choice between setting up practice in a neighborhood where 95% of the population is going to pay with Medicaid or an HMO, or one where nearly everyone has a good insurance plan, which would you choose? Which scenario do you think is more likely?

You still haven't told me why you think I am a bad person or given any better reason to believe that you are likely to outpace me in life other than some internships. And why would your judgment be so credible? Aren't you being wholly hypocritical in your self-affirmation of your judgment of me in contradicting the many who know me and approve by putting more stock in your own perception of me through no other medium than an internet forum? Why should you believe what you do about me when there are so many others who would disagree?

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

even me?

I am THE man.
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I may not yet, but callysta does. What started this shitstorm was you saying that her profession and her accomplishments are essentially meaningless. You do not have a right to bash someone else's profession or their prospects.



I'm sorry you grew up in surroundings that make you think this way. Is it because of your father? His motives? Sorry, but I have been instilled with morals that are aren't seen as often in this country anymore - parents mean everything and that you take nothing with you. To this end, just in case there is a God, I plan to be judged by Him based on what I have done to help the world, not how much money I made. Believe what you want, I really don't care.



1) How about both? Grey area. Maybe I'm planning on general practice before I specialize? And I choose to specialize because those fields are the most interesting to me as of now. Of course that might change when I do my clinical rotations.
2) Of course, medicine is more fulfilling and interesting than being a librarian. I don't think that checking out someone a book is as satisfying as saving someone's life or giving back a big part of it. Only the lazy, greedy, and desperate would choose that route and I am none of those.
3) Thanks to Obama's healthcare plan, everyone will be insured in one way or another. If you mean now, then where I would set up practice would more depend on other factors such as commute, convenience, practicality, etc. Of course the payment options of my patients would count, but would not be the deciding factor. Saying otherwise is akin to asking you would you work for other people's happiness and be willing to not get paid? Only an idiot would say no; compassion and care doesn't mean you have to go totally unrewarded in a tangible manner.

You believe everything is for the money. That's fine, but with me it's not. And I don't see how I could be any more clear about that. Arguing this serves no purpose anymore. Talk it over with your dad, I'm not wasting my time on this issue any further.



-You have attempted to belittle many people here on the forums for no reason.
-You are an asshole, for no reason, to people you meet in real life (bus dude, professors, etc).
-You think so low about your parents.
-You think highly only of yourself.
-You are a dick but think yourself clever instead.
-You think of people as filler. What is wrong with you?
-You do not show even the smallest amount of respect for anyone. People don't have to earn it first, you should give everyone you interact with basic respect. Whether or not they get to keep that respect is on them.

I really think you and I could have some great debates and discussions. But you like to make things personal, to try and break people from within. As you can see, it will not work with me and you will not get what you want just by continuing this conversation. I'm not that GM, I'm not that fat guy on the bus.

Why am I bashing you and nobody else? I'm sure not everyone's GPA is a 4.0 or will become a doctor. I don't because nobody else is as big a dick as you. I don't care about your credentials until you try and belittle others' when you have none yourself. Want to start anew?

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I'm respected.

of course <3

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also, one of my favorite quotes pretty much sums up why Aestu is so damn miserable:

"The secret of happiness is this: Find something more important than you are and dedicate your life to it."

But to our deluded douchebag, nothing is more important than him, right?

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Just wanted to mention... you're seriously marring your record.

oh yeah cuz its so evil to consider good deeds more worthy than cash.

This thread reminds me I should change my car insurance to auto-bill my Visa and close my chequing account because who the fuck writes cheques any more (unless you pay rent)

At least I live in Canada where the banks don't suck and an overdraft fee is a few dollars.