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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:34 pm  
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I completely agree with Aestu on this one. They should make it 280% or something (unless it already is) to keep the old one cool.


In Cata you can buy 310% flying training according to a mmo-champion post I saw this morning. (5000g if you don't already have a mount that is 310%, free if you do). I'm not sure about the specifics of how that training will work but if it makes it so all mounts you own fly at 310% then the speed of a mount no longer matters.


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You remind me of Chrystal.

You will take attention in any way, any form that you can regardless if it's positive or not. You just want someone to know that you exist.

Grow up and stop crying like a kid.


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Wowhead gives in to blue pressure:

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While typically I wouldn't even justify a post in a thread like this (because it just sets me up to be labeled as some sort of horrible person), I just wanted to give a different perspective on the "situation."

Simply put: there being a new phoenix won't make yours, or anyone else's, phoenix any less special than a player might already think it is. Those players who "players who mindlessly zerg ICC and farm heroics for hours" are no more or less deserving of anything than you or I are - they're paying the same subscription fee, and I don't know about you but I'm not paying mine in gold bullion or huge tracts of land, so I really don't expect any sort of special treatment. There's really no difference in the grand scheme of things between the guy who got lucky on his guild's first 40-player Kael'thas kill and someone who has diligently farmed the guy every week since Burning Crusade launched - you could say that the first guy was more "deserving" and is more "special" because he got it back when it was hard, or you could side with the latter and say that his "hard work" and "determination" paid off. It still doesn't change the fact that it's a digital item in a digital video game that should be obtained for one sole reason: personal enjoyment.

Of course, I totally respect your opinion and wish only to share my own, as well - I suggest to you (and everyone else out there on the Cataclysm QQ train) to stop worrying about what other people think and enjoy your possessions (digital or otherwise) for yourself. It'll make the whole thing a lot easier.

BTW, the expansion is going to be freakin' awesome. Stop worrying about trivial shit.

Also, sorry but I'm locking the post on account of extreme QQ/trolling. If you want to view this as my being a jerk and not allowing you to reply in your defense, you're more than welcome to email me and call me a jerk privately.


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A forum ceases to be relevant when it cannot allow dialogue. Words in a thread harm no one...except perhaps Blizzard interests.

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"Simply put: there being a new phoenix won't make yours, or anyone else's, phoenix any less special than a player might already think it is. Those players who "players who mindlessly zerg ICC and farm heroics for hours" are no more or less deserving of anything than you or I are - they're paying the same subscription fee, and I don't know about you but I'm not paying mine in gold bullion or huge tracts of land, so I really don't expect any sort of special treatment. There's really no difference in the grand scheme of things between the guy who got lucky on his guild's first 40-player Kael'thas kill and someone who has diligently farmed the guy every week since Burning Crusade launched - you could say that the first guy was more "deserving" and is more "special" because he got it back when it was hard, or you could side with the latter and say that his "hard work" and "determination" paid off. It still doesn't change the fact that it's a digital item in a digital video game that should be obtained for one sole reason: personal enjoyment."


That wasn't my argument at all. I said nothing about my own mount being less special. My point wasn't that it devalued what I had, it was that it appealed to a negative element of the playerbase.

To lock a thread then close with your own opinion by way of inaccurately restating the opinion of the OP isn't moderation, it's editorializing, and it's also unfair since you're distorting what was said.

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Of course, I totally respect your opinion and wish only to share my own, as well - I suggest to you (and everyone else out there on the Cataclysm QQ train) to stop worrying about what other people think and enjoy your possessions (digital or otherwise) for yourself. It'll make the whole thing a lot easier.

BTW, the expansion is going to be freakin' awesome. Stop worrying about trivial shit.


And what if we do worry? Why shouldn't we worry? Do we need to be told to not worry?

Maybe we'll like the expansion and maybe we won't but why should we assume it's going to be awesome? Big, expensive things by big companies flop all the time.

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Also, sorry but I'm locking the post on account of extreme QQ/trolling. If you want to view this as my being a jerk and not allowing you to reply in your defense, you're more than welcome to email me and call me a jerk privately.


QQ, trolling? I stated my opinion, nothing more. It was lucid and logically written. If you or anyone else doesn't agree with what I wrote...well, you're free to your opinion...but what's the harm in what I stated?

Why must I reply privately? What harm is there in public debate?

How many threads do we have with a relatively specious basis, or complaining about this or that in the game, and how many end with not only a lock but also an editorial about the issue?

Of course it is your prerogative delete the thread and ban me from posting. In doing so, you're making it clear that you want a one-sided dialogue; you want the last word. If it was merely your intent to avert "trolling/QQ" you'd simply have locked the thread and refrained from editorializing...just as is the case with most "troll/QQ" threads.

So my question to you is: why?


99% sure I'll get banned from Wowhead forums for this. Oh well!


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lol @ wowhead

talk about lacking testicles


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Aestu, in all respect I can muster, I believe you so dramatically and seriously missed the mark on the reasoning behind the mount that it's comical.

You think there is some grand design to appeal to certain players, etc.

What probably actually happened was one of their development teams was tasked with guild perks, someone said "hey let's make a mount available through this system" as is pretty standard in WoW, then the developer in charge of putting it in place used an existing model he liked (and wasn't overused), played around with the color scheme for an hour, and put it in.

Trust me when I say, this is how IT shops work.

The fact that it is a phoenix model is only due to the fact that the model existed and wasn't already overused, so it could be passed off as novel with absolutely minimal development effort. As the goblins say, time is money friend.


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There's really no difference in the grand scheme of things between the guy who got lucky on his guild's first 40-player Kael'thas kill and someone who has diligently farmed the guy every week since Burning Crusade launched


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"the mount guy"


good read on mmo at least


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I had a War Bear.

The Black/White bears were okay, because their skins sucked in comparison.

Don't you take my War Bear model away from me though.


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While I understand what you are saying Aestu, thats just the way the game is (and has been for a while)

Think of it from a high end raider's point of view... We worked hard to kill H LK, and get Invincible. And to kill Yogg-0 and get Mim's head (Of which I still have neither, because I'm awesome at rolling).

Unless blizz has changed their stance recently, those mounts will still be available at 85 in cata. Maybe its elitist of me to want to have things in the game that other people don't or can't have, but hey.. I like to stand out a bit, and I try not to be a jerk about it. (Most of the time)

That being said.. blizz has been pretty adamant about appealing to a casual audience.. and making things impossible to obtain completely goes against that philosophy. What they did do, was add in achievements.. so you can have that little date tagged onto the accomplishment to still feel somewhat special, while still appealing to the little collector kiddies.

So while I understand where you're coming from, I disagree with your point of view. You may say I disagree because I dont have a phoenix yet, which is true... but at the same time, you don't have invincible and might be hard pressed to get it before expansion time, so I'd say we're about even :)


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1000 people's 15$ a month> your 140 a year.


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quadtard wrote:
1000 people's 15$ a month> your 140 a year.


But but but but but my $140 is special.


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 Post subject: Re: Aestu's Thoughts About The Dark Phoenix
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Tehra wins. Dum argument and thread is dum.
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I don't feel like that I'm gonna miss much if I don't come back for the xpac.


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I don't know what I'm going to do. dreys is getting deployed so who m i gon smash faces with?


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brb reactivating account
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