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Upon what basis do you say that men and women are inclined to develop exactly the same psychology and personal traits given that in every place and time and even in society today they are divergent in the same ways?

This is where sexual dimorphism comes in
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Case closed. Looks like a slam dunk to me.


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So...

Aestu's argument that men and women aren't equal is based on the observation that men and women might like different things?

You pick the strangest things to focus on in your arguments, and you latch on so hard it makes it impossible to reason with you. Oh well.

Right now I have a mental image of a classroom of children learning about ladybugs. The teacher has a poster of a ladybug with 7 perfectly round spots. One kid is throwing a fit because a ladybug he read about once was more orange than red, and one time he found one without 7 perfect spots, and cartoons claim they can speak.


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ITT: Aestu is mildly misogynistic and uses history, which has a history of misogyny to back up his own misogynistic ideas.


Well, why is "history" misogynistic? Why have men and women developed along the same trends in so many discrete places and times? Answer me that.

That image proves my point. The entire reason it was taken is that the viewer knows it is ironic - contrary to what we expect from our own experience...because of the reality of sexual dimorphism.


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Akiina wrote:
Aestu's argument that men and women aren't equal is based on the observation that men and women might like different things?


Qualitative. Dictionary. Go. Now.


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Aestu wrote:
quadtard wrote:
ITT: Aestu is mildly misogynistic and uses history, which has a history of misogyny to back up his own misogynistic ideas.


Well, why is "history" misogynistic? Why have men and women developed along the same trends in so many discrete places and times? Answer me that.

That image proves my point. The entire reason it was taken is that the viewer knows it is ironic - contrary to what we expect from our own experience...because of the reality of sexual dimorphism.



It clearly wasn't taken so much as made. Two seperate side by side pictures found and pair'd off. I guess I see your point, that's like me saying this picture is ironic because it shows how different we are when in reality we're not so different.
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Looks like another slam dunk to me.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7dFMbubxr4[/youtube]


Edit: I remember that being much more exciting. =/


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You're impossible.

Aestu wrote:
Upon what basis do you say that men and women are inclined to develop exactly the same psychology and personal traits given that in every place and time and even in society today they are divergent in the same ways?

This is where sexual dimorphism comes in.


Psychology? Personal traits?

These things vary between genders as much as they vary from person to person-- how can you make the claim it is purely gender related?

You can reverse "expected" roles, they vary by culture anyway. Psychological and emotional development is a huge shitstorm of conflicting theories, anyway.

What specifically are you pointing to, then? You seem to be the only one who knows. Give us a list of the things you think are the most important.


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Akiina wrote:

These things vary between genders as much as they vary from person to person-- how can you make the claim it is purely gender related?


All definitions of groups are defined by the mean. The fact there is overlap at the edges doesn't diminish the validity of the definition.

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You can reverse "expected" roles, they vary by culture anyway. Psychological and emotional development is a huge shitstorm of conflicting theories, anyway.


How many cultures have mostly female leaders, soldiers, merchants, homemakers? How many cultures choose men for those roles? Why?

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What specifically are you pointing to, then? You seem to be the only one who knows. Give us a list of the things you think are the most important.


Men tend to be more aggressive. They tend to think in terms of logic, whereas women think in terms of feeling. Men tend to make dealings based on respect and reasoned argument, whereas women tend to make dealings based on shared goals or values. Men tend to think more in terms of the horizon, women are more focused on the here and now. Men tend to put function over form; for women it is the opposite.

The judgment being made here by the posters as to which is superior and inferior is not the means but the ends.


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I'm way manlier than you, and I base most of my decision making on the quantity of people my actions (or lack thereof) will piss off, and the quality of the anger I induce.

There probably is a lot of logic that goes into my cost-benefit analysis, so you get half credit.

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Aestu wrote:

Men tend to be more aggressive. They tend to think in terms of logic, whereas women think in terms of feeling. Men tend to make dealings based on respect and reasoned argument, whereas women tend to make dealings based on shared goals or values. Men tend to think more in terms of the horizon, women are more focused on the here and now. Men tend to put function over form; for women it is the opposite.


I would like to see your source for such information.


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A condition of reality is being in a book!


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Aestu wrote:
A condition of reality is being in a book!

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Aestu wrote:
A condition of reality is being in a book!


IF AESTU SAID IT, IT MUST BE TRUE AMIRITE GUYZ????????????

No seriously the same statement you made to discredit him you discredit yourself.

Just give it up. We know you think you are always right. It's okay, if I was there I would pat you on the back and give you a cool sticker


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Show me the man who believes that what he believes is untrue.


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Show me the man who believes that what he believes is untrue.


Anyone who believes in god.


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