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Playing hardball with asshole companies is always fun, but make sure you realize its going to be a drain on your time and energy as well.

I have a feeling, assuming your dates are correct, that there was no 12 month agreement, and they are just trying to screw you for some extra cash. However, if you did sign a 12 month agreement, you are legally bound. You either have to pay up, or as aestu said, try to annoy them into dropping it just to get you out of their hair. And honestly id ask for a physical copy. Probably not too hard to make an official-ish scam document and put your sig on it. Highly illegal? Yes. Maybe im just being overly paranoid here but I dont trust that stuff, or people for the most part. Who knows. If you feel like something isnt right, just keep pressing.

Way more so than WoW these days.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Also, Azelma, make a written request to receive the contract. Send the request USPS First Class with tracking so you can prove they received it.

This is very important: when you make a request, specify a timeframe in which you expect it to be fulfilled. "I expect to receive the contract within ten business days."

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

I... I... I actually like what Aestu is saying in this thread. O_O

1. Asking people to lie for you by creating false documents is wrong.

2. Signing a contract without reading the contents is a mistake.

3. Your personal integrity is worth more than $280. Cheap lesson, imo.


This situation is not unique to gyms, or to you. It is quite common with most "clubs" and organizations who require monthly dues or fees. It happened to me one time. It happened to one of my sons. I've known others, as well. These places count on you to not read the contract, but even if you did, you'd most likely sign it anyway because you feel like you'll certainly be involved in the club for at least one year. I know you think they should have mentioned this, but what about all the other information contained in the contract? Did you want the guy to sit down and read the entire thing to you? Remember: ALL contracts are negotiable. You can counter/amend/exclude any clause in any contract before you sign it. Of course, you have to read it first. The other party then has the option to sign or counter.

Once you sign... honor your obligation, just as you expect the other party to fulfill their side. However, there's nothing to keep you from aggressively trying to settle on more favorable terms, as Aestu suggested. Until you obtain a signed and amended contract, man up. That's your name on the bottom of that agreement.


These opinions are exclusively Boredalt's and do not necessarily reflect those of FUBU, Mns, the moderators, Bleeding Hollow, or anybody else in the universe.

Boredalt - 80 Dwarf Priest - Dissension

How has no one else said this

Are you so fucking poor that you need to commit forgery/fraud/some illegal act to save $280?

And my gym membership is over $20/mo cheaper including squash courts, you better be getting massages with happy endings for that price.

Not paying $280 on gym shit is $280 spent on something not shitty.

So, here is a couple of things.

1. Don't ever sign a contract at a gym. There are ways out of it, you may pay a few dollars a month more but if you decide to quit the most it will cost you is a partial month. I have had memberships at three different gyms, one of them a national chain, without a contract.

2. Read contracts. Eturnal, Aestu, and others are right. Pay the fee for the next three months. Go to the gym while you pay for it. Find some crazy fit aerobics instructor. Get some before you spend the winter trying to get hit in the head with your brothers cock while he spots you.

3. This is a partial repeat of 2. Just pay the contract out, if you try to quit paying, they will find you. They have people who have the sole purpose in life of retrieving money owed.

4. When you do cancel, find out all of the details about when you have to notify them. When the Worlds Gym I was a member of closed in the middle of the night and left town, it cost me three more months of membership fees while I tried to follow proper chanels to cancel the membership. Their reasoning for not going any faster or refunding the fees paid for a gym that did not exist was that there was another one within 15 miles of that location, but was 30 miles from my house and I could have been going there.


My wife has a membership at a local gym. I believe it is a francise of a larger chain but she did not have to sign a contract until they offered her some insane discount to take a year contract. We pay less for both of us to go than she did for herself, although I dont really have the time to go we pay less than if she was under the old plan. She has already told them that when the year is up she will not renew and they will have to send her the updated pricing before charging our credit card. THe put it in writing on the contract, lol.

9 level 90s and 10 85s, Damn I need another hobby.

It's the principal of the thing that I literally am not allowed to cancel, which is BS. Also, I have a cheaper option that has come up, so I'd be much happier having that $280 for something else...like food or whatever.

But yes, agreed I should have read the contract (again, IF it actually said the whole year thing on it...seems quite shady with the whole November 15 thing....which I have asked this woman about in an e-mail).

In any case, thinking about this...I'm going to see what she says about the contract, but I'm now leaning towards just paying it and making sure I use the facilities, canceling once it officially runs out.

You are right that this is a lesson-learning opportunity. Forging documents is probably not a good idea. I read up about this company, and I guess other people have had various issues trying to cancel their membership as well.

It seems that this is a scheme many gyms employ in order to make their revenues look good...if someone wants to quit, make it a pain in the ass for them to do so......which I don't like.

Oh well, lesson learned I suppose. I'm quite interested to see what this accounts manager replies with, though.

I don't quite agree. It's like signing a contract with the devil, except you don't know it's the devil. There is an implied expectation of fairness, and in my opinion, this amounted to deliberate deception cloaked in legalism.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

You can't talk about principles when you're so ready to commit fraud for less than 300 bucks. Like everyone else said though, it's imperative that you get a copy of the contract.

If destruction exists, we must destroy everything.
Shuruppak Yuratuhl
Slaad Shrpk Breizh

Jan - November = 11 months
+1 month for already paid December = 12 months = 1 year.
Your contract does run through Jan. You've paid the last month in advance, remember?

Suck it up and pay the last few months out.

I am not able to look at the contract, but having been through this myself, I'm very confident that the club will be happy to produce a copy of the contract and that it will indeed say, "I am the devil." Unlike most of us, they are very familiar with this tussle. Since Azelma confessedly did not read the contract, the stipulation stating the duration of the contract is not likely "hidden", at all. I'll wager that, like mine, the terms are stated and he, like me, simply did not bother to read it.

I don't blame you for being bummed, Azelma, but you're mostly mad at yourself.

Boredalt - 80 Dwarf Priest - Dissension

it's also possible that he can claim that he's a ward of the state due to mental deficiencies for never hearing about how gyms repeatedly fuck people over.

or for spending 70$ a month to lift heavy objects.