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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:15 am  
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I never said the government isnt corrupt.


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So they're corrupt but nonprofit?


They're selling guns to developing nations so that they can pay for this obamacare thing right?


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As for corruption, some individuals are working for their own profit, but the institution as a whole is not commited to a good profit line. In a perfect world the government would have 0 deficit and 0 surplus, but it doesnt always work out like that so things need to be done in order to balance the budget.



inb4 "in a perfect world there would be no government"


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Everyone in government is out for themselves. Just like everyone in the private sector.


If everyone at a newspaper leans very far left, its going to be a very far left newspaper.


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You can be both corrupt and non-profit, the two aren't mutually exclusive. That's a different discussion, however.

Anyway, no one's arguing any government is administratively perfect, but a system under which the government controls the bureaucracy behind health services and ensures people's costs are fully funneled into actual care, rather than advertising and corporate bonuses for executives, is bound to be more efficient no matter how you look at it. The entire point is to cut out the middleman who skims (insert percent here) off the top.

Middlemen are functionally useless. Insurance companies with profit motive are middlemen.


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Yuratuhl wrote:
You can be both corrupt and non-profit, the two aren't mutually exclusive. That's a different discussion, however.

Anyway, no one's arguing any government is administratively perfect, but a system under which the government controls the bureaucracy behind health services and ensures people's costs are fully funneled into actual care, rather than advertising and corporate bonuses for executives, is bound to be more efficient no matter how you look at it. The entire point is to cut out the middleman who skims (insert percent here) off the top.

Middlemen are functionally useless. Insurance companies with profit motive are middlemen.
How are government functionaries any less 'middle men' than insurance functionaries? Administrative costs associated with government programs far exceed their private sector non-profit counterparts in this country. By what logic should we assume that healthcare will be different? --Jubber


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You're wrong Jubber. There aren't any middle-men in the government and it's a cheaper, less confusing system.

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relax guys they're all non profit.


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My phone won't load your pic, LoL. Sorry, but I'm out for an oil change, & I'm trying to do all my internet so I can play WoW when I get home. Taking the boy to Kings Dominion tomorrow.

EDIT: Home now, and I can see it.


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Tea party-ers have more fun.

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C.

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