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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:17 am  
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I played it on the xbox and I had absolutely no problem with anything really at all ever. Took me a good bit to learn the game so I could actually play the entire story and every single little side quest on Very Hard.

Though to be honest, the armor you get from Operation Anchorage is godlike.


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Dyslexia, yeah, I didn't like how the endgame pidgeons the player into using Combat/Power Armor and a few weapons that oneshot most humanoids but still take whole magazines to kill elites. I'm thinking I'm going to try using more cloth with bonus damage for a more dynamic game, especially since slugfests relying on force and mitigation are usually fail anyway. I want to try using the Longcoat/officer uniform and a rifle/energy weapon instead of power armor. Also reduces tedium by running faster.

Eturnal, I think the problem is you are simply taking too much damage.

Crouch, LoS and maneuver to avoid taking damage. Try to play it less like Doom and more like Splinter Cell. You want to be a commando or infiltrator, not Duke Nukem. I find it helpful to think of it like real life: how do special forces survive? They don't allow themselves to get shot.

A good tactic is to crouch, take a VATS shot at range, then some freehand shots, more if your opening shot crit, crippled or disarmed the target and it's reeling. When it turns to face you, crouch or go behind a corner. Wait and watch. If it turns away before coming to you, take a step back into LoS and shoot it in the back. When it runs around the corner, crouch, unload with VATS into its face, then run through it back around the corner again. Rinse and repeat. If the target is weak or disabled, melee it to death, save the bullets.

Ideally, you shouldn't take much damage at all. If you find yourself trading fire directly, you have probably already made a tactical error.

Food is everywhere in the field; because it has weight, you'll want to snack constantly. Also, don't be afraid to take even a lot of rads spam drinking from rivers and toilets.

I think what you are describing about the other characters seeming lame is easier to reconcile for me as a megalomaniac. In the game, you the main character are the hero. It's like a Shakesperean play: you have your major characters and your minor fools, dweebs, and stage extras. Remember, you the player can kill almost anyone and the story will go on. Not every character is meant to be a big deal; it's like life, with a lot of filler characters.

Also, one major difference between Fallout 3's scripting and that of most RPGs is that most characters' dialogue is literally their own perceptions or opinions and not what is literally true. Much more frequently than in other RPGs you the player must play deteective and second-guess the NPCs statements. The dialogue becomes more readable if you read it, again, as if it's a drama or play and you're thinking in terms of the character's motivations.

I personally really liked the Eden/Autumn dynamic. I liked how Autumn captures perfectly the values and attitudes of the military mind: physically and personally brave but eager to minimize risk at any cost; solves every problem with force or threat thereof; intelligent but without intellectual curiosity. I liked how Eden captures the most quintissentially human character trait: cynicism. He knows people, especially Autumn, better than they know themselves. He's a great salesman, how he always tries to sound reasonable and argue that what he is saying is in the interests of the listener. Ironically, I found a lot of personal inspiration from Eden. His ending ways way too stereotyped and superficial; it felt like the devs were rushed, really. Probably the most poorly scripted scene in the whole game.

Fallout pretty aptly captures how I feel about violence in general: I dislike it for the same reason I dislike sex in movies - it's cheesecake, a distraction. It's actually a very deep game, but as with GTA, the violence is really a superfluous quality that is the main appeal for 95% of players. This is also why I enjoy porn, cruelty, literature and drama, but not R-/M-rated games and movies.


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If you liked (or hell, even just played) Fallout 1 and Fallout 2, you will be sorely disappointed. This glorified Oblivion mod doesn't even come close.

It's not as funny in the black comedy sense of the word, you can't kill children or plot-relevant NPCs, it's nowhere near as strong from a storytelling perspective, and the overall story strains the metaplot established in the first two games.


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I think it is indicative of the state of video games in which we live that for the last few months, I have been playing a SNES emulator and only playing RPGs.

Secret of Mana, Final Fantasy, Robotrek, etc.


the fast forward button and save states make rpg's even better.


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So I've been playing for a couple hours. For most of the beginning of the game I was running around with a sledgehammer bonking things. Since I'm hitting super mutants now, I've decided to go for more of a stealth bonking. For emergencies or enemies that I can't get to, I have a hunting rifle since ammo is plentiful and it packs a wallop and for gigantic "fuck it" moments, I found a Fat Boy. I'm also trading in my cloth for some leather armor. I'm not really having a problem with Stimpacks, but I'd like to use them less.

I'm somewhat flustered that ammo doesn't have weight and, to my knowledge, there's no sort of starvation meter. I got the dog, but it decided to be a retard and run in the opposite direction of where I was and got blitzed by a flamethrower and I'm also highly disappointed you can't aim for body parts with a melee weapon in VATS. Besides these things though, I'm really digging the game.

The little things (like the Pip-Boy actually being functional as opposed to the crock of shit Oblivion one and the flashlight never running out of juice) are what really make this game better than Oblivion for me.

Then again, I never played any of the previous fallout games.


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Aestu, I was actually referring to the Chinese Stealth Armor.

It's the most overpowered piece of shit in the game.


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An example of why I find Fallout 3 so fun:

So I completed the quest to gain the ability to enslave NPCs for cash, "Strictly Business". I completed it by enslaving only one of the four targets, Arkansas the sniper. I killed Red and Susan Lancaster in their sleep with Sandman. Flak from Rivet City I ambushed by locking him in his own quarters then oneshotting him at point blank with a sniper rifle. I was able to isolate him by sandmanning and ambushing most of the guards when they were alone in corridors. I did the quest this way because I wanted to preserve good Karma and access to Rivet City.

I then went to Paradise Falls and pickpocketed the ammo from each and all of the slavers. I opened the slave pen, reverse-pickpocketed power armor onto the slaves and freed them. The unarmed slavers converged into a mob and zerged the slaves down. I went back to the pen and killed the cow and elderly slave just outside, so there were no NPCs between the mob of slavers and the interior pen (as this would cause an NPC leaving the pen to put away a weapon with a deadzone). I reverse-pickpocketed a Fat Man and a dozen nukes onto Arkansas along with a set of power armor, and pickpocketed away the ammo for his own sniper rifle.

I freed him, and he used the Fat Man to completely wipe out the mass of slavers - every single one in the camp, except for some of the vendors. I sandmanned all the remaining NPCs except Pronto the weapon vendor and Grouse the point-of-contact who sells Mezzer cells and takes slaves. Finally, I walked out of Paradise Falls, aggroed a Yao Guai bear, and kited it to Paradise Falls. It killed the last of the generic slavers - the gate guard. I then killed the bear before it could kill Grouse...leaving Paradise Falls completely empty except for Grouse and Pronto, who I wanted to continue to be able to buy ammo and power cells from, and to sell slaves. I went and looted everything and left. Three Dog the disc jockey then did the spiel about cleaning up Paradise Falls.

I returned to Arkansas' sniper roost, oneshot him at point blank, and took back the power armor, his sniper rifle, the Fat Man and all the nukes he hadn't used.

There's a hackneyed saying about Rome that runs "The blessing of Roman power: they make a desert and call it peace". It's actually a misquote. What was actually said is closer to "The blessing of Roman power: they make a solitude and call it peace."


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Mns wrote:
So I've been playing for a couple hours. For most of the beginning of the game I was running around with a sledgehammer bonking things. Since I'm hitting super mutants now, I've decided to go for more of a stealth bonking. For emergencies or enemies that I can't get to, I have a hunting rifle since ammo is plentiful and it packs a wallop and for gigantic "fuck it" moments, I found a Fat Boy. I'm also trading in my cloth for some leather armor. I'm not really having a problem with Stimpacks, but I'd like to use them less.

I'm somewhat flustered that ammo doesn't have weight and, to my knowledge, there's no sort of starvation meter. I got the dog, but it decided to be a retard and run in the opposite direction of where I was and got blitzed by a flamethrower and I'm also highly disappointed you can't aim for body parts with a melee weapon in VATS. Besides these things though, I'm really digging the game.

The little things (like the Pip-Boy actually being functional as opposed to the crock of shit Oblivion one and the flashlight never running out of juice) are what really make this game better than Oblivion for me.

Then again, I never played any of the previous fallout games.


If you want to be a god in stealth do the Operation Anchorage add-on and you get a ninja suit and ninja blade.
Every time you crouch with it on you are 100% invisible and you can crawl up to anyone and basically one shot them with the blade.

Very OP and makes any stealth boys and points in sneak obsolete.
The game feels broken at this point though imo.


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So I've started dicking around with addons for my second time around and I'm going for more of a steampunk themed stealth character because I've fallen in love with the railgun and the powerfist (stealth kicking people that are crouched is the best).

What are some good addons? So far I have Fellout and Tailor Made for aesthetic purposes, but besides that, everything I've seen either makes everyone naked or an animes.


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http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1854

Sprint mod, lets you sprint for AP. Adds a couple perks, one letting you tackle shit.

http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/ ... p?id=10647

Messes with the self repair system a bit.


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I really like the repair mod, but I've decided I'm just gonna go for realism (read: I don't wanna shell out for New Vegas's Hardcore mode when its on the same fucking engine as FO3).

So far I've picked up:
- Cigarette mechanics (including addiction)
- Basic Needs mods
- Realistic Death Physics (headshots from a pistol don't explode the head)
- Ammo Weight
- That Repair Mod

I'm also thinking about picking up that mod where you can build your own settlement, but I'm gonna wait until I'm completely bored with the game to do that.


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Hollow point will explode heads even if it is a pistol.

There's no such thing as pretty headshots.


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Yuratuhl wrote:
Hollow point will explode heads even if it is a pistol.

There's no such thing as pretty headshots.


I passed up the 5% damage boost from Bloody Mess because I got tired of everything I shot blowing up in that ridiculously overdone way.


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Bloody Mess is supposed to be a Trait and not a Perk. Too bad Fallout 3 sucks so much ass.


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Yuratuhl wrote:
Hollow point will explode heads even if it is a pistol.

There's no such thing as pretty headshots.


Yeah, but a headshot from a pistol should just make you slump to the ground, not propel 15-20 feet away while your heads and maybe some of your limbs explode.


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