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In short, girl violates dress code because of nose ring, gets suspended. claims first amendment rights as nose ring is religious. religion is "Church of Body Modification."




double points for happening like an hour from my house.

Retarded dress code is retarded.

They'll probably just tell her to take it off during school since her religion doesn't say you have to wear it 24/7.

Either way its' retarded.

My school decided to ban trench coats after Columbine (as in, right after. man I feel old). The only students who wore trench coats were myself and one other student, but a number of the male teachers wore them. The ban didn't last very long.

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It leads to an interesting deeper discussion, imo.

What constitutes a religion in the eyes of the first amendment?

The Church of the Fonz is the only thing that constitutes a real religion in my eyes.

But I think the point is completely moot. You can practice whatever religion you want. There's nothing that says you can practice your religion in government buildings though. The government owns said property, and like any other property owner, can do what they want with it. Essentially they can have whatever rules they want and apply them to anybody in the building.

The question is whether the school's (or any government building's) rules are reasonable. Telling someone they can't wear a cross or a star of David or even a fucking pentagram is unreasonable. In this case, barring a nose ring is equally unreasonable.

Now if she went to school with shorts so short you could see excess pubic hair she was genetically unfortunate enough to have, then it would be reasonable to tell her to put some damn clothes on, regardless of whatever religion says she should dress like a slut.

Likewise, if someone was a part of the 'church of violence' and they had shirt with graphic violence on it, it would be reasonable to tell them not to wear it.

Plus it's a fucking stud. Who gives a shit about a stud?

I wrote an article for my high school's newspaper about our dress code, or more accurately ridiculing it. We had a clause about gang signs/colors. Our school was like 80% white and 19% asian with a handful of rich black kids, on the East Coast in an affluent suburb. What the hell is a condition about gang colors doing there? The only part of the entire code that had any merit (aside from "you must wear clothes") was a bit about exercising proper care when wearing flip-flops, since apparently girls are retarded and fall down stairs a lot while wearing them.

I don't recall it saying anything about piercings or bodymod in general. But if nose studs (which are pretty much the only cute form of nose ring possible, and if you disagree you have bad taste) are against their rules, why the fuck aren't 3-foot hoop earrings?

I know I'm not addressing the religion part, but that's because I don't like the automatic fallback position religion allows you in this country. You have a right to practice, but if Sikhs can't carry daggers, why can you wear your jew-beanie or church-nose-ring or headscarf? Or giant blingy crucifix?

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My parents told me going to school is a student's career. I wasn't there for having fun, partying, socializing or openly practicing my faith; I was there for an education. If an administrator asked me to do something I would do it, regardless of how I felt about it; they were my boss and I respected their position and authority. Most institutions have dress codes anyways and if her having a piercing violates a rule of the dress code then she should have to take it out.

Although we're granted the freedoms to believe what we want and practice our faith how we choose, does that freedom supersede the rules set forth by other establishments that don't grant us freedoms? I wouldn't think so. The second amendment says I can have a gun. Does that mean I can walk into a federal building with it?

Going to school is mandatory. You choose to be employed; you have to go to school. Comparing it to a job is stupid, and asinine requests by administrators should be challenged if you have any balls and your brain works. Reasonable requests that you personally disagree with should be followed, sure, but if they're abusing their supposed (false) authority, the legal system is set up to fuck them.

Constitutional freedoms supersede any rules to the contrary in a public setting. This has volumes and volumes of precedent, and if a lower court doesn't shit all over the rule, the Supreme Court will not only squash it, but will yell at you for being such an obtuse bitch. The difference between this and the second amendment is the clear language. If you walk into a federal building with a handgun, not only will the security just shoot you, but you're in breach of public safety, are not an active, on-duty member of an operational and regulated militia, and are most certainly not necessary to the security of the state especially if said building already has armed guards.

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Shuruppak Yuratuhl
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It is mandatory to go to school until you're 16, yes, but WHICH school is not mandatory, so she has every right to go to another school, which doesn't prohibit a minute little piercing.

I really wish stuff like school would be "Here is our rulebook, adhere to said rules or fuck off," and people would actually adhere to those rules, or fuck off.

I know in Ohio you're only allowed to go to a public school if you have a parent or legal guardian living in an area that pays taxes to said school. While she may have a right to, that doesn't mean that its remotely feasible.

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Yeah but people have done weirder shit for religion.

That's true, but the "if you don't like it, leave" mentality, in my mind, isn't very American to begin with.

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I dunno, that's why we left Europe.

i have a nose stud. i love it, to me it's cute, and i think i should be able to wear it wherever i damn well please.

i still have a clear plastic retainer for places, like those of employment, that don't give a shit what i think about my nose piercing. dress codes happen, and it won't end with her school. i'm surprised they didn't mention anything about retainers.

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