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 Post subject: Thx 4.0.1: Ruby Sanctum 25-10 GDKP, 5PM Sat. Nov. 6
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:46 am  
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BH has been long awaiting the debut of a Ruby Sanctum GDKP, but this inclination has previously been dissuaded by the brutal trash clear. No more!

At 5pm on Saturday, October 16th, I will be hosting a 25-10 Ruby Sanctum GDKP.

We will be engaging Halion on 25-man. However, we will be clearing trash and the well-itemized mini-bosses on 10-man. Those who participate in the 10-man trash clear will each take an additional 5% withholding from the final pot, myself excluded, in addition to whatever they would normally receive (meaning they each would get 7% of the final pot, and everyone else would get 2% each).

This method has many benefits:
-Those who really want gold badly enough to suffer through the trash may do so
-Those with a ton of gold who cbf with trash but will drop the house on scales and such are free to do so
-10-man trash is faster to clear and weaker relative to players with heroic ICC gear
-The instance as a whole will get done faster

Going forward, "25-10" will be the term we will use for this sort of arrangement.

If you are interested in this opportunity, please send me an in-game mail. Also specify whether you want to clear trash or not. It will be noted on your calendar invite.

See you there!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:54 am  
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can't go 10->25

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:56 am  
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Bashiok wrote:
You could kill Lord Marrowgar and Lady Deathwhisper with a 10-player raid on Wednesday, join a 25-player raid to kill Festergut and Rotface on Thursday, and then lead a completely new 10-player raid to kill The Lich King on Friday.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:58 am  
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Aestu wrote:
Bashiok wrote:
You could kill Lord Marrowgar and Lady Deathwhisper with a 10-player raid on Wednesday, join a 25-player raid to kill Festergut and Rotface on Thursday, and then lead a completely new 10-player raid to kill The Lich King on Friday.


when did this change? awesome.

also inv for both trash/main raid.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:09 am  
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what is this I don't even.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:57 am  
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Invite. Valeria wants the neck. :D

you know i got the goods!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:23 am  
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Invite Brawlsack as dps, I am pretty non-brain AIDS regarding Ruby Sanctum in general and trash in particular.

Also brilliant idea.


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Nevermind, stupid family thing can't make it. Much apologies Aestu, though good luck to you :)


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:28 am  
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If you have a free spot I would like to join. I am only semi retarded


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:47 am  
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The trash really isn't THAT bad.. I don't know why people are so afraid of it. Just because you have to actually be careful when you group mobs up and AOE them down, and you might have to CC a mob in certain packs doesn't make it terrible. A 30 minute a 20 minute trash clear really isn't that bad... you spend more time clearing trash in ICC, and people don't call that brutal.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:52 am  
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Myrrar,

The trash isn't bad for 'individuals' that aren't retarded. But when you do a PUG, the retardation factor multiplies.

Just because the people posting in this thread more or less are careful about not breaking CC, targeting the right mob at the right times, interrupting casts that can be interrupted, positioning themselves in anticipation of knockbacks, etc.. doesn't mean everyone else is. Most (PUG) raids take mostly good players, with some filler trash players in between.

In the case of Ruby Sanctum, one filler trash player can be enough to aggro another patrol as a result of a bad knockback due to poor personal positioning.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:04 am  
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So long as you have two tanks that understand you pull the Commander out and kill it separately, the trash is cake.

So long as you have dps that will interrupt the aoe knock back from the casters, it's trivial.

Unfortunately, it is usually neither trivial nor cake because people suck.



I'm really going to enjoy laughing at bad players in Cata when they have to learn how to crowd control in instances again.


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I suppose. I guess the solution would be to just kill all the retards. But I was under the impression that Aestu was fairly selective about his PUGs, and typically didn't let jimmy-drools-a-lot into his raids.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:08 am  
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I'd like to go to this.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:21 am  
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dek wrote:
So long as you have two tanks that understand you pull the Commander out and kill it separately, the trash is cake.

So long as you have dps that will interrupt the aoe knock back from the casters, it's trivial.

Unfortunately, it is usually neither trivial nor cake because people suck.



I'm really going to enjoy laughing at bad players in Cata when they have to learn how to crowd control in instances again.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:23 am  
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myrrar wrote:
I suppose. I guess the solution would be to just kill all the retards. But I was under the impression that Aestu was fairly selective about his PUGs, and typically didn't let jimmy-drools-a-lot into his raids.


I wage my own little wars with the army that shows up. And part of the reality of pugging is that pugs are typically not a going concern and it is not as easy to compel individual players to function at their full potential.

I plan on having anyone who isn't a healer that has a tank spec to go tank, and tanking each of the melee-type mobs individually. I don't feel the need to make a point of proving the GDKP pug can do the content the "right" way if some other way is more suited to the means available to me. Although actually, I got the idea from <Excessive Gaming>-Illidan.

EDIT: Also, to be clear, I don't particularly mind stupid or bad players coming to raids as long as they don't take things that players who contribute at the level required by the content would want, or get in the way. If I'm zerging a level 70 raid, or doing the weekly, or doing ToC for some reason, or doing the first four or six bosses of ICC on Monday evening, it doesn't matter if the raid is mostly morons. That said, when it comes down to a matter of discretion, I'll usually decide against them and in favor of the players who are actually making the mobs die.

To set expectations grossly in excess of what is required by the content is the definition of elitism. I don't do that, the point of pugging is to make content accessible.

But of course if I'm pugging non-trivial content, then certainly I will put in place requirements in line with the raid's objectives.


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