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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:49 pm  
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i tanked just fine on my dk.

and i'm terrible.


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Something is wrong with tanking?
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Meowth wrote:
Only thing I can say is our Bear tank was pulling something like 25k TPS on LK while I was around 20k being 2nd highest on threat on one of our pulls.



threat was weak forcing me to invis : (


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Ok i did a heroic. Only thing which bothered me is the name plates not being there.


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Tootsiê wrote:
Meowth wrote:
Only thing I can say is our Bear tank was pulling something like 25k TPS on LK while I was around 20k being 2nd highest on threat on one of our pulls.



threat was weak forcing me to invis : (


give me my spammable* RS and I could make sure you never had to invis...

DKs are about 90-95% good on tanking and making RS spammable (higher RP cost, but no need for dodge/parry) will kill any ramp up threat gen issues
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Tootsiê wrote:
Meowth wrote:
Only thing I can say is our Bear tank was pulling something like 25k TPS on LK while I was around 20k being 2nd highest on threat on one of our pulls.



threat was weak forcing me to invis : (


At least you have a threat drop, so gtfo









Tried tanking as Feral and raged the whole time. Not having Thrash and Swipe on a 6 second CD is just dumb.


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Re: AOE tanking

I remember when when I first killed Majordomo Executus, and having a tank of some sort or a crowd control for every single one of the mobs. We had a good tank as the current mob tank (so he was tanking the entire fight) and then basically ranked the remaining ones and put them on mobs where the best would hold a mob for the longest.

No tank held two mobs.

GG people suck now.

Re: Threat lol

I don't blame them because it's stupid to not make use of a tool at your disposal, but Tricks of the Trade and misdirects in general because a huge crutch for threat. I love people whining "omg why am I pulling so much threat now?" when it's because we're not countering them as effectively anymore.

Although, if Blizzard doesn't address it, rogues might have to tricks the tank a lot more often and not just trade them for the dps boost. I guess that's why they gave us the new tricks glyph that nerfs the damage for making it free.


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Also, is it possible that some classes are just doing such ungodly, broken, bugged amounts of damage that threat could be working fine and it's still out of balance?

I don't doubt that's at least a factor.


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I have seen arcane mages pulling llike 40k arcane blasts, and since they do the most damage at high amounts of mana, thats a possibility.

but i dont have any caster classes to try and pull aggro off you tanks.


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I'm not sure, but I think I may have predicted all this.

I know I predicted that after a few years of Wrath of the AoE King we'd have too many DPS out there that wouldn't know (or know how) to watch threat or CC (WTF IS POLYMORPH??? THIS ISN'T PvP???).

Glad I let my account die. Now, not only do I not have to worry about my enchants disappearing (and not being fixed, good job Blizz), I don't have to worry about general asshattery and the douchebaggery that goes along with it.

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I tanked with my pally on the PTR and a few times since the patch and I basically just had to pay a little more attention to dps and warn them to give me a second to get threat. I admit I did sacrifice a few casters to their own stupidity but once I got the rotation down there were no problems. We ran a semi alt ICC last night and the pally tank (Kalmalkin) had absolutely no threat issues. In fact, the DK tank could not even come close. The trick is HoR is hitting harder than CS even on single targets, plus Kal is a damn good tank. I have tanked on my dk also since the patch and it is pretty damn fun. My warrior is sitting as my ah bitch so I cannot comment on warriors and my druid is somewhere in Sholazar just farming and mailing herbs for a while. But my pally is fine. Now pally healing takes some getting used to the new changes, but the only instance I have healed was HoR and half of my add ons did not work, so we will see.


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So wait, are you gloating because all the other tanks are bad and losing aggro left and right (as your early posts imply) or gloating about something unrelated and agreeing that there's serious threat issues when contending with classes that do 25k dps (as your last post on page 1 implies)?

Also, DKs are pretty much stuck leveling as Blood now. I tried Frost for a few minutes but they take too much damage and don't self-heal enough. This pleases me, as I have always preferred leveling as Blood anyway.


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Jubbergun wrote:
I'm not sure, but I think I may have predicted all this.

I know I predicted that after a few years of Wrath of the AoE King we'd have too many DPS out there that wouldn't know (or know how) to watch threat or CC (WTF IS POLYMORPH??? THIS ISN'T PvP???).

Glad I let my account die. Now, not only do I not have to worry about my enchants disappearing (and not being fixed, good job Blizz), I don't have to worry about general asshattery and the douchebaggery that goes along with it.

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Well, yes, idiots are also a factor.

But if you're suddenly pulling 3x as much damage as you're used to, you'll probably pull aggro as well.


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Yuratuhl wrote:
So wait, are you gloating because all the other tanks are bad and losing aggro left and right (as your early posts imply) or gloating about something unrelated and agreeing that there's serious threat issues when contending with classes that do 25k dps (as your last post on page 1 implies)?


The former.

In the context of an SS of Aestu hitting a heroic boss with a 8.3k Avenger's Shield, then shield slamming it for 25k, it's safe to say I was being sarcastic when I said that our major threat abilities should hit "two to three times harder" than they do now to fix 6.2k Gearscore paladins being unable to hold aggro in heroics.


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