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My belief is that growing and smoking weed should be legal, but selling it should be punishable by forced labor or crucifixion.

Potheads should be institutionalized and sent to forced labor colonies. This distinction should be made on the basis of how much of the drug is in the person's system and whether they are engaged in gainful employment.

The reality is, people will do whatever they can to satisfy a chemical dependency, and they will have a destructive impact on the lives of those inextricably bound to them - their family, neighbors, associates. It is not practical for society to take no action against potheads or other drug abusers, because the result would be a downward spiral of social anarchy which would be oppressive to the life opportunities and positive development of future generations. So I do believe we need to have laws regulating the use of weed and other drugs, short of a total ban.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

While you are correct in the fact that many people have addictive personalities, your assumptions in how it works are incorrect.

As a friend said to me in my car recently... "You're incredibly smart, you're caring, you have a job you like, and you're always there when you're needed, and you're such a huge fucking pothead. Do you normally crush stereotypes?"

my ipod switched to the next song on shuffle...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL4FBKLmO0g[/youtube]

I just smiled at her.

juicy tomato c/d

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Hope this goes through. Got everyone i know that lives in California to vote yes on this. Seriously contemplating the move to Colorado just because of their medical marijuana laws. But if this passes hopefully other states will follow quickly.

and who determines "gainful"? stop regulating and just let it be.

Unless you're looking to drug test people on unemployment, in which case, you should also be testing for unprescribed medication and alcohol too if you're going to enforce draconian law. Can't be having someone we're constantly pestering if they went on interviews be happier one day out of the week now, can we?

It's a touchy subject, but the one thing you should get out of it is "why do i feel a need to control other people's lives?"

less government please.

I feel like this may be a cheap shot because I know you're not really one for socializing, but Aestu, you do realize a staggering amount of people, gainfully employed or otherwise, smoke weed on at least a weekly basis, right?

Trying to institutionalize potheads is just as ridiculous as trying to institutionalize the hundreds of thousands of people (millions, more likely) who drink themselves into a stupor Friday night after a week of work.

If destruction exists, we must destroy everything.
Shuruppak Yuratuhl
Slaad Shrpk Breizh

Smoking marijuana makes me cool right?

no, but the cannabinoid receptors in your body will thank you.

then later, your pineal gland will.

Laws encourage a black market. Black markets encourage violence, organized gangs, and dangerous products. Anti-drug laws put non-violent users who need addiction treatment in jail with violent criminals and does nothing to solve the issue, in addition to costing the tax payer more...

It is indeed practictal for the federal government to do nothing, so that the true communities can be allowed to focus on the individual treatment and their own laws. Maybe people in North Dakota don't need the same laws as Los Angeles.

A former best friend of mine died trying to receive treatment for his opiate addiction by the government encouraged treatment of methadone (lack of being able to safely obtain oxycontin or a safer dose of heroin). Methadone killed him, but perhaps if it were legal for the opening of opiate treatment clinics or at least a legally available product; he could have been allowed to wane himself safely off of the addiction with the assistance of medical professionals instead of fear of breaking laws and further ruining his life to fix his problem.

Government generally potentiates the problems when it comes to hindering personal liberty. Let society freely try to act on problem solving without the use of force by government thugs.

To paraphrase an old quote, those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither and lose both.

Not having a law doesn't mean everyone is encouraging something, this is a very dangerous an erronious thought process that bad schools have been feeding people on a grand scale.

/endrant tl;dw

Reiteration of my point: Society can act(if you free us to), without the use of federal government thugs and force that causes unintended consequences at the cost of the entire society's security and freedom.
Legalize freedom baby.

to add, for the above listed desires to be achieved, it would take more than a state to end the drug cartels. It would take at least the mexican border states legalizing it (perhaps possible through a successful example by California) or the Federal Gov. to wise up and legalize freedom. Maybe someday with the help of the internet everyone will wise up and just start putting smarter(& honest) people in office that can keep an oath. bleh

Bikers are a less than savory element in our society, so I think I'll just opt out.

I understand that. If I did not understand this, I wouldn't have mentioned it in my post. Hence the reason for the distinction: the capacity to get by in life is what differentiates the pothead from the casual smoker.



Which is fine. As long as they don't become a menace to anyone but themselves. Hence DUI laws.



Because no man is an island, and there is a mutual reciprocity between the actions of individuals and the well-being of society as a whole. It is a two-way street.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

Half right.