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I can simulate Rush interviewing Bush by throwing wiffle balls into a pillow.

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They also take credit for some good things that happen that are the work of others. Thumb through that list. Um. Is this supposed to be a list of everything that has happened? Or a list of things I should be impressed with?

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Obviously not old enough to remember Carter, the president who brought us the "misery index."

"No wars" is a dumb measure, but if you think the weak foreign policy that led to the Iranian hostage crisis was completely justified because we weren't unleashing the baby-rapers to burn village somewhere, more power to you.

Carter offered his answer for the energy crisis: Wear a sweater. The giant smacking sound you weren't alive to hear was the collective population of the US face-palming. Way to implement a solution while you hold both houses of Congress and the Executive branch, Jimmy. Hey, you know who else had his party in charge of Congress and passed idiot legislation that made the economy worse? Hint: He's got about two years left in the White House.

Worst.
President.
Ever.

...or worst ever until this current guy is done.

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Carter was bad, but not the worst. The worst presidents were long before our life times, so the argument is moot.

Bush isn't as bad as the left demonized him, Obama hopefully isn't as bad as the right demonizes him, but since he hasn't had to play ball with the right yet, we'll see how the next two years go.

Clinton did well under similar circumstances, we'll see if obama can.

I saw two good things in there, a lot of fluff, and quite a few "yeah, and that was just genius that he did that" kind of stuff.

What I didn't see that a lot of conservatives don't give him credit for is his work on immigration. He's actually working to deport people who aren't supposed to be here, and griefing the sweat shops that hire them. Of course, he's not getting every illegal alien, but he's making more of an effort than previous administrations.

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Carter was a pacifist, his policy reflected that. Plus he's such a cute old man now! Poor Jimmy.

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That pacifist served in the Navy.

The man is an embarrassment to my submarine force.

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Oh I have. He doesn't impress me. Also, he's been on my bad side ever since he tried to do sports commentary and ended up saying people only give McNabb credit because he's black. Just a ridiculous person I have no interest in hearing talk about anything if I can help it.

Also,



This.

When it comes to statecraft, you don't get points for good intentions.



Why?



Iran-Contragate was Reagan's doing, not Carter, and Reagan should have hung from a noose for it...literally, he should have been hung for treason.

What do you think should have been done to solve the energy crisis?

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Nihilism is a copout.

This makes me think Eternal's argument has some merit, or you have problems listening. Limbaugh didn't say that people only give credit to McNabb because he's black, he said that the new/sports media so greatly desired a black quarterback to do well that they inflated his accomplishments to the point that McNabb couldn't live up to expectations. This was part of a conversation, of course, about McNabb's performance, and Limbaugh took the side of "he's doing just fine," and argued that the only reason you'd think otherwise is because you bought into the hype...then he shared his opinion about why there was so much hype, which is what pissed people off.

If you do actually attempt to listen to the man's show, don't do it for a day or even two. Take a least a few weeks. He does a lot of satire/sarcasm/humor, and if you're sitting there waiting for him to say shit you don't like, you hear shit you don't like, and not "here's why this is funny." Just because I don't agree politically with every joke a comedian makes about republicans/conservatives doesn't mean they can't be funny and/or laughed at for the sake of humor.



Bush is going to be doing interviews everywhere now that book is out. Listen to one of those, if you prefer.

Like no politician before this has gone out of their way for softball questions...

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See: US History, 1976-1980



Hate to point this one out to you Dr. Science, but the Iranian Hostage Crisis =/= the Iran/Contra Scandal, but thanks for playing, we have some lovely parting gifts for you.



Then or now? The problem is different now than it was then...but the answer was not "put on a sweater."

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The Iranian Revolution was inevitable and the result of a problem festering for years. Irancontragate was the resolution to the Iran Hostage Crisis as implemented by Reagan: sell arms to Islamic militants bent on the destruction of our country, in exchange for the hostages, to impress voters.

As you yourself prove, this traitorous act did exactly what it was intended to do, which was impress uninformed people, and that's why our political system sucks: people like you think they know all the answers when really they've just been hoodwinked.

If you don't have any better ideas, why second-guess Carter? Hell, even today the problem hasn't been resolved, even with three Republicans and two Democrats in office since then, because it's a tough problem and really the political system has very little control over the issue.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

I would bomb the shit out of a building with American hostages in it.

America should NOT DEAL PEACABLY WITH TERRORISTS OR HOSTAGE TAKERS.

They could debate the use of cocain vs prescription drugs.

In all seriousness, W was not as bad as he was made out to be. He is deffinately not as dumb as alot of us (including me) thought and now that he can be a little more candid it shows. I do like the fact that he is not hiding that he was a drunk or that he took alot of advice from people that may have not been the greatest available. There have been alot worse presidents and there have been alot better. He did decent with the cards he was dealt. I think Obama is going to have an extremely rough next couple of years since he does not have a war to distract people from the problems we face and this past election will make it even harder for him to get things done his way. This next year will really determine if he will get re-elected or not. Please just dont force Palin on us, its bad enough watching her teen mom kid dance on tv.

9 level 90s and 10 85s, Damn I need another hobby.

Being called "uninformed" by someone who is excusing his error by attempting to conflate two separate historical events...not only does this not sting, it made me giggle incessantly like a little school girl.



No one said I don't have better ideas. I was asking for clarification: Do you want to know what should have been done then, or what should be done now?
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