Anyone else pissed about consumables/engineering items

Battletard · **Posted:** Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:36 pm

Not being useable in rated bgs?

-speed/hp/mana potions
-haste potions
-food buffs
-Mind Control Helm
-Rocket Boots
-Etc

Shit just pisses me off about how Blizzard keeps trying to control everything to make it fair and it just ends up fucking everything up and removing content in the interest of maintaining balance WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY ignoring the real balance issues that pvp and the game face.

Monotheist · **Posted:** Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:59 pm

brb unlearning engineering in favor of something useful.

Jushiro · **Posted:** Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:59 pm

alchemist/enchanter irl

Battletard · **Posted:** Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:32 pm

Monotheist wrote:

brb unlearning engineering in favor of something useful.

I JUST finished leveling eng to 450 like a month ago. Dropped mining for it. I'd sooner quit WoW.

Azmaria · **Posted:** Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:30 pm

but you won't.

Spacehunter · **Posted:** Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:36 pm

Dammit i just leveled Engineering on my Druid. Well, i mean, i could say i'm disappointed, but you would actually have to be stupid to think Blizzard would allow Engineering in rated BGs.

Learn from history.

rikkilake · **Posted:** Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:40 pm

ive never used a single one of those in a battleground
i will not miss them

SgtGrumbles · **Posted:** Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:19 pm

Blizzard has no idea what to do with their game sometimes.
I find it funny that after two attempts at including engi in high end pvp scenarios, (Only to ban engi later) they're finally going to ban it going into an expansion. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to allow it at some point during cata because of how imba furry might be.

Battletard · **Posted:** Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:19 am

Azmaria wrote:

but you won't.

No, I won't..at least not any time soon.

Battletard · **Posted:** Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:22 am

I just feel like the most competitive teams will have consumables and gadgets readily available, and against other teams that are competitive it will come down to player skill anyway.

The casual teams will get rolled by competitive teams regardless of professions being enabled or not.

It's just shitty that the only viable things that engineering bring to the table (at least in pvp) are being totally disallowed.

quadtard · **Posted:** Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:35 am

Inc professions being removed from raids, and during the leveling process.

Baneleaf · **Posted:** Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:37 am

I was reminded of something during a raid last night. Lifeblood (herbalism self heal) now gives a heal plus 240 haste. Will that remain useable in bgs, if so watchout for all of the new inc flower picking hippies.

Dvergar · **Posted:** Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:38 am

Battletard wrote:

I just feel like the most competitive teams will have consumables and gadgets readily available, and against other teams that are competitive it will come down to player skill anyway.

The casual teams will get rolled by competitive teams regardless of professions being enabled or not.

It's just shitty that the only viable things that engineering bring to the table (at least in pvp) are being totally disallowed.

Engineering is leagues ahead of every other profession for pvp, it would be required. I know there will always be best professions, but the difference between enchanting/blacksmithing/JC/Leather/etc isn't as great as the difference between engi and anything else.

Engi toys are the kind of things that could imbalance classes. Those extra stats isn't going to push a rogue or a warlock into op territory, but engi items could do that. They mess with balance in a way that can't be easily tweaked except by removing toys.

Necrachilles · **Posted:** Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:06 pm

After all this time of having engineering, nothing surprises me anymore. Basicly I just use it for world PvP anyways. I don't regret leveling it up though and at least when I jump of the bridge or ledges in BGs, I can parachute cloak still.

Battletard · **Posted:** Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:01 pm

Dvergar wrote:

Battletard wrote:

I just feel like the most competitive teams will have consumables and gadgets readily available, and against other teams that are competitive it will come down to player skill anyway.

The casual teams will get rolled by competitive teams regardless of professions being enabled or not.

It's just shitty that the only viable things that engineering bring to the table (at least in pvp) are being totally disallowed.

Engineering is leagues ahead of every other profession for pvp, it would be required. I know there will always be best professions, but the difference between enchanting/blacksmithing/JC/Leather/etc isn't as great as the difference between engi and anything else.

Engi toys are the kind of things that could imbalance classes. Those extra stats isn't going to push a rogue or a warlock into op territory, but engi items could do that. They mess with balance in a way that can't be easily tweaked except by removing toys.

Why not buff those other professions instead?

Also, I had an idea for a sort of dualspec for professions.. Once you reach 2 maxed professions, you can unlock a dualspec for professions for a fee that grants you access to a 3rd profession, but you can only have use for 2 at a time.

This would not be strictly used for PvP, think about the PvErs that play a tank and a dps, or a healer and a dps...etc.

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