Full Body Scans/TSA Genital Fondling - This is Air Travel.

Laelia · **Posted:** Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:00 pm

Yuratuhl wrote:

"Pat yourself down, make sure you do a good job. All clear here!"

The bit Eturnal initially quoted makes me think it does provide an exemption. If "the area in question" for a woman wearing a hijab is just the bit obscured by the headscarf (and none of the rest of her body) then the "area in question" for anyone not wearing one is none of their body and the entire procedure doesn't take place.

Or am I misreading it?

The TSA guidelines refer to bulky clothing. The exemption refers to someone getting selected for additional screening only because they're wearing a piece of bulky clothing that could be concealing something. If someone gets randomly selected or chosen for screening based on behaviour etc., then they would still be subject to a complete examination. They're still entitled to request a patdown over a scan, and it can be done in a private area if requested.

Eturnalshift · **Posted:** Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:03 pm

We're not talking about that - we're talking about that self-administered pat down.

Laelia · **Posted:** Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:08 pm

Eturnalshift wrote:

We're not talking about that - we're talking about that self-administered pat down.

The CAIR page says you can request to pat the area yourself and have your hands checked for explosive residues. The TSA guidelines aren't explicit, but they do say they may "provide officers several options when providing additional screening of bulky clothing items, including explosive trace portals, limited pat-downs and explosive trace detectors" which is consistent with the CAIR statement. If the TSA officer feels there is a real threat, they don't have to agree to the request.

Usdk · **Posted:** Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:13 pm

I give myself self administered pat downs all the time.

"ALL CLEAR!"

Boredalt · **Posted:** Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:38 pm

These random pat downs have been going on in London for years. I flew out of Gatwick in 1989 and was randomly selected to be searched. No screening area... just "Sir, step over here. Raise your arms and set your feet to shoulder width." 15 seconds later, "Thank you, sir." It was quite a surprise, but we all thought it was funny.

Less funny was the one hour delay while they completely emptied the baggage from the plane because someone checked luggage onto the aircraft but did not board the plane. :/

Meowth · **Posted:** Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:18 pm

rikkilake wrote:

Weena wrote:

I'd like to see a Jackass where Partyboy tries going through security in only his thong.

Weena wrote:

I'd like to see a Jackass

Weena wrote:

Jackass

either: a) go back to being a 16 y/o boy, or
b)fuck off

You're just jealous you missed out on Jackass 3.

Jubbergun · **Posted:** Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:33 pm

Mns wrote:

Aestu wrote:

Eturnal, the point we're making is, they still get searched, they merely get searched in a way compatible with their superstitions.

Can't you see that since we're being respectful of their religion, we're pandering to them? This sort of acceptance of other cultures is what will make us into a Islamic regime with Sharia Law!

What if, according to my religion, it's really, really gay for another dude to touch my fucking balls, and it's against my religion to be gay?

If we're going to respect their deeply-held personal belief about wrapping their cabeza in fabric, what about my (and more than a few other people's) deeply held belief about not letting just any ol' jackass get your nudes or touch your junk?

As much as you may hate it because you're being thenthitive to the downtwodden and oppwessed, Eternal is right. If it's good enough for one person, it's good enough for everybody else regardless of race, creed, gender, sexual preference, religion, and/or ability to digest dairy.

Your Pal,
Jubber

Tehra · **Posted:** Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:00 pm

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/11/18/another-tsa-outrage/

Quote:

So we’re in line, going through one at a time. One of our Soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the Soldier that they’re going to confiscate his nail clippers. The conversation went something like this:

TSA Guy: You can’t take those on the plane.

Soldier: What? I’ve had them since we left country.

TSA Guy: You’re not suppose to have them.

Soldier: Why?

TSA Guy: They can be used as a weapon.

Soldier: [touches butt stock of the rifle] But this actually is a weapon. And I’m allowed to take it on.

TSA Guy: Yeah but you can’t use it to take over the plane. You don’t have bullets.

Soldier: And I can take over the plane with nail clippers?

TSA Guy: [awkward silence]

Me: Dude, just give him your damn nail clippers so we can get the f**k out of here. I’ll buy you a new set.

Soldier: [hands nail clippers to TSA guy, makes it through security]

This might be a good time to remind everyone that approximately 233 people re-boarded that plane with assault rifles, pistols, and machine guns–but nothing that could have been used as a weapon.

Kayllaira · **Posted:** Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:09 pm

What if a woman has some serious mental trauma, like from a rape or other sexual assault? Wouldn't having her vag felt up be a bit of a trigger?

Usdk · **Posted:** Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:14 pm

The scans are an added pain in the ass to several dozen pains in the ass.

rikkilake · **Posted:** Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:27 pm

Kayllaira wrote:

What if a woman has some serious mental trauma, like from a rape or other sexual assault? Wouldn't having her vag felt up be a bit of a trigger?

yes.

Dagery · **Posted:** Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:43 pm

There's a scanner at Fort Lauderdale International that I've gone through three times this year. I haven't heard of anyone, including myself, having a problem with it.

And as far as both go, just chub it up and you'll be fine, you god damn pansies.

Usdk · **Posted:** Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:44 am

Fuck that, I'm not getting groped by an old man because someone flew a plane into a building.

Also, I'm not catholic.

Battletard · **Posted:** Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:28 am

Last year Obama caught shit for the underwear bomber making it onboard the plane.

This year he catches shit for doing TOO MUCH to prevent another attack.

Honestly people..give it a fucking rest. And just so you know, Obama is not the government. He is one person of MANY who influence American public policy.

Stop scapegoating him as some sort of a bogeyman hellbent on destroying America for his 'socialist agenda.'

Quittermike · **Posted:** Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:52 am

How much would it suck to go down in history known as the underwear bomber?

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