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But her geography failings started by the "I can see russia from my house" crap, which was actually said by tina fey playing sarah palin.

First Steve Doocy said on Fox that she had foreign policy experience because Alaska is near Russia. Then later Palin said it herself. Tina Fey was mocking that.

Pretty sure the comment was said by Tina Fey. Sarah Palin said something similar but that's not what everyone remembers her saying. Like USD says, people remember her saying the Tina Fey quote.

Mark Levin, a conservative radio show host and a constitutional lawyer, posted excerpts from the 'unedited transcript' of the Charlie Gibson/Sarah Palin interview. I can't vouch for the authenticity of the transcript and I'm sure you guys will instantly discredit the posting because it came from a conservative. (Conversely, you'll most likely assume the original airing of the interview is complete and unedited, and that Sarah Palin is really, really stupid.)

The conversation regarding Russia and Alaska is, as the excerpts from the 'unedited transcript' says, this:
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GIBSON: Let me ask you about some specific national security situations.

PALIN: Sure.

GIBSON: Let’s start, because we are near Russia, let’s start with Russia and Georgia.

The administration has said we’ve got to maintain the territorial integrity of Georgia. Do you believe the United States should try to restore Georgian sovereignty over South Ossetia and Abkhazia?

PALIN: First off, we’re going to continue good relations with Saakashvili there. I was able to speak with him the other day and giving him my commitment, as John McCain’s running mate, that we will be committed to Georgia. And we’ve got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable and we have to keep…

GIBSON: You believe unprovoked.

PALIN: I do believe unprovoked and we have got to keep our eyes on Russia, under the leadership there. I think it was unfortunate. That manifestation that we saw with that invasion of Georgia shows us some steps backwards that Russia has recently taken away from the race toward a more democratic nation with democratic ideals. That’s why we have to keep an eye on Russia.

And, Charlie, you’re in Alaska. We have that very narrow maritime border between the United States, and the 49th state, Alaska, and Russia. They are our next door neighbors.We need to have a good relationship with them. They’re very, very important to us and they are our next door neighbor.


GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they’re doing in Georgia?

PALIN: Well, I’m giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia. We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along…

We cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We’ve learned lessons from that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union.

We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.


GIBSON: Would you favor putting Georgia and Ukraine in NATO?

PALIN: Ukraine, definitely, yes. Yes, and Georgia.

GIBSON: Because Putin has said he would not tolerate NATO incursion into the Caucasus.

PALIN: Well, you know, the Rose Revolution, the Orange Revolution, those actions have showed us that those democratic nations, I believe, deserve to be in NATO.

Putin thinks otherwise. Obviously, he thinks otherwise, but...

GIBSON: And under the NATO treaty, wouldn't we then have to go to war if Russia went into Georgia?

PALIN: Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be called upon and help.

But NATO, I think, should include Ukraine, definitely, at this point and I think that we need to - especially with new leadership coming in on January 20, being sworn on, on either ticket, we have got to make sure that we strengthen our allies, our ties with each one of those NATO members.

We have got to make sure that that is the group that can be counted upon to defend one another in a very dangerous world today.

GIBSON: And you think it would be worth it to the United States, Georgia is worth it to the United States to go to war if Russia were to invade.

PALIN: What I think is that smaller democratic countries that are invaded by a larger power is something for us to be vigilant against. We have got to be cognizant of what the consequences are if a larger power is able to take over smaller democratic countries.

And we have got to be vigilant. We have got to show the support, in this case, for Georgia. The support that we can show is economic sanctions perhaps against Russia, if this is what it leads to.

It doesn't have to lead to war and it doesn' have to lead, as I said, to a Cold War, but economic sanctions, diplomatic pressure, again, counting on our allies to help us do that in this mission of keeping our eye on Russia and Putin and some of his desire to control and to control much more than smaller democratic countries.

His mission, if it is to control energy supplies, also, coming from and through Russia, that's a dangerous position for our world to be in, if we were to allow that to happen.


Allegedly, the bold sections were edited out of the interview. The underlined section is what SNL was mocking. You may be questioning this because it seems a little conveinent that this hard-to-find edited transcript surfaced from some conservative talk show host that you probably never heard of. Well, if we look at the following video, we'll see this exchange as it was aired on TV.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwhO8a1PLMQ[/youtube]

If you watch the video from 4:18 through 5:44, you'll hear this transcript, obviously with the bold portions missing. To prove this is a clearly edited exchange, watch Sarah Palins hand movements from 5:16 through 5:24. Before the cut, as she's talking about being able to see Russia from Alaska, she is pointing with her thumb. After the cut, her hands are pressed together. There was obviously an exchange that was removed from the interview and, most likely, it was removed to paint Sarah Palin in a bad light... ya know, to make it look like she's stupid.

And, for clarity, this is the repeat of Tina Fey saying her famous, "And I can see Russia from my house" comment. (0:45 point)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXVIwo5fLYs[/youtube]

Anyways, just wanted to clear this up for anyone who is confused.
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That's just America's bullshit sensationalist media for you, nothing new here.

The ultimate flaw with America is that any jackass who is 18+ and not a felon can vote for any reason they would like.

It's the beauty of America, but when coupled with sensationalism in media, sound bites and voting for people just because they are black or because they are a woman or because they AREN'T black or AREN'T a woman, that's when the democratic process gets shitty.

The only solution is increased voter awareness through education and since we have that whole freedom of the press thing, the media just needs to be responsible on their own since it's very hard to police the reporting of fiction as fact and vice versa.

And would we even want to police the media? I know I wouldn't be in favor of that.


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I'm fairly certain no one here has defended glenn beck in any way shape or form.


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so rather than try and salvage what was left of your original post, you're just gonna change the subject. Ok then.
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Usdk wrote:
I'm fairly certain no one here has defended glenn beck in any way shape or form.

Eturnalshift wrote:
1) Glenn Beck, without the over-the-top theatrics, is actually pretty decent to watch and/or listen to. I'm guessing you haven't done either and you're only passing judgement based on what others have said or what little sound bytes you've heard.

I think his link covers the bolded part.
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Sarah Palin made a minor mistake that she corrected immediately.
Obama made a mistake that he didn't correct.

People fuck up in speeches, who cares.



p.s. This comes from someone who thinks Sarah Palin needs to get lost in the woods and not run for ANY government office
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Ive watched him a little bit eturnal, and his theatrics are as annoying as that economy dude with all the buttons.

Id rather watch a fireside chat.


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Jus' saying I was the one who defended him and my comment was towards Dagery since he posted 'clips'. Not sure if you took it as a reply to you or not.
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Not that i really like or want to stick up for Obama or any other politician we have in this country, because to be honest they all are fucking greedy pricks. In that clip it sounds like he just brain farted. Because if you listen to what he said you would be calling him stupid for thinking there were 60 states because he says he visited 57 with one to go. Excluding Alaska and Hawaii because his people wouldn't find it feasible for whatever reason. So does he really think there are 57 states? probably not. I know on many occasions i will be thinking about something and talking/typing and say/type what i was thinking internally when it had no relevance or was just wrong in context to what I really wanted to say. If this video is from his campaign stuff then I can some what understand the slip. If it was near the end of the campaign he has probably taken on some mental exhaustion.

Just my view on that clip. Haven't watched the Sarah Palin north/south korea goof up. Maybe i will get to that soon.


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You guys are all officially retarded because of that one slip of the tongue you made at some point on your life, just like Obama and Palin.


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Man, remember when politics was about the issues?

Yeah, me neither.


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Dagery wrote:
http://www.sloshspot.com/blog_details.php?blog_id=252

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Do we have to dig up an Olberman page?

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Spacehunter wrote:
Man, remember when politics was about the issues?

Yeah, me neither.


You mean like abortion and church vs. state?

Or issues that matter like the economy and foreign diplomacy?


Whatever. As a red blooded American, I will inform myself politically with sound bytes from political extremest media personalities, heresay, and conspiracy theories found on the internet. Then I will support the candidate who's lifestyle and personal values most resemble my ideal American citizen, even though I myself may constantly contradict those values.


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On a side note, her ratings on her TLC show "Sarah Palin's Alaska" plummeted after the first week, showing America's total disinterest with her, so I wouldn't be that concerned. Mind you, this is the same America that enjoys Jon & Kate Plus 8 drama, so she must be pretty terrible.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/23/sarah-palins-alaska-ratings_n_787454.html


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