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About the only time anyone should ever say "The N-word" is when young kids are around, much like "The F word", or whatever. Any time the conversation involves anyone over the age of 10, what does saying "the N-word" instead of nigger really accomplish? Does it say, "I want to discuss this but the word nigger is so offensive to me that I can't bring myself to utter it"? Because, outside of this silly rationale, everyone involved in the topic understands you mean nigger, so if you want to talk about the word nigger, and its impact, then say nigger. And, nigga? If you think that's different, just walk up to a few random black people with the greeting, "What's up, Nigga?"

Having grown up in a different time than most of you, and in the southern US, I think I can say that I've had a front row seat in the evolution of the word nigger. I've thought about it quite a lot. I've said this on these forums before, and been met with some level of derision, but I still contend that, while almost always inappropriate, it is still okay for black people to use the words nigger, nigga, etc. while it is not okay for others to use it. It is a form of self-deprecation, imo; bonding words that underscore their commonality. Sort of, "In the end, we're together in this one thing. We understand what it is to be black." I feel the same about gay people using the words fag, faggot, or whatever with other gay people. I'm not black, or gay, so I can not share this bond with them. I'm okay with this. I don't even look at it as racist, exactly.

Additionally, the impact these words have on people is so unpredictable. You may have a black friend who is unfazed when you use it, but there are black people who would cut your throat for using it with your friend, even if you weren't talking to them.

In the end, you have to ask yourself: Do I really care if black people use the word nigger, but get upset if I do?

tl;dr Nigger is still an inflammatory word that has so many appropriate alternatives that using it almost always seems like an intentional attempt to piss someone off.

Boredalt - 80 Dwarf Priest - Dissension

In my experience, black people don't get pissed off at me when I say "Niggas" or "Nuggas" in a friendly or endearing way, like, "What's up my niggas?" or "Yous my Nugga". It's when you use "Nigger" in a derogatory way when shit hits the fan, like "You stupid Nigger." Then again, you could substitute "Nigger" with any other word (Cunt/Prick/Dick/Asshole) and probably get the same response since you're insulting them.

True story. I'm leaving my work parking lot and I'm traveling down the main passage of the parking lot. I come to an intersection in the parking lot and I don't have a stop sign but the other vehicles do. So, I'm going along my merry way when some full-size family car runs the stop sign as I'm in the intersection. I hit my brakes and honk at them, giving them the finger. The car reverses and the black woman in the passenger seat yells out, "Fuck you nigger." I yelled back, "No, fuck you cracker." The look on her face was priceless.

you sound terribly aggrieved by this.

jk you sound like you have a chip on your shoulder.

but i don't care what words you use.

Akina: bitch I will stab you in the face

Why does anyone NEEd to say it?
Are there 100000 other words you could use?
Let's say, conservatively, the way that some of you use that word can be interchanged with probably 50 other words. If there aren't 50 other interchangeable words and the N word is the one you must use, then it's a racist connotation and you are wrong.
Out of 50 words...that's the one you HAVE to use?
Let's say in that list of 50 words...5 of them are highly offensive like the N word itself. Is it that much work to choose from the other 45 options?

What the shit is wrong with you?
You have an option to say a word which maintains the full meaning of the sentence WITHOUT possibly offending someone...
OR
You have an option to say a word which maintains the full meaning of the sentence WITH possibly offending someone...

Why would go with the latter?

The argument FOR using that word has never and will never make sense to me.

Also the argument that "Rappers use it, so I can" is probably the most ignorant argument out there. News flash: The rappers that use that word...are not "right" either. You are both wrong. Both ignorant. They have the same option you do...choosing another word that won't offend someone. They choose the offensive option for what I would bet is mostly martketing and sales reasons.

I can honestly say that there has never been an instance in my life where I've been even remotely inclined to say nigger (except in a meta way like I just did, discussing saying it).

The same can be said for many other racial or sexual epithets.

I guess maybe I just use more generic insults... to me, you're an asshole if you're an asshole, and being gay or black or whatever has nothing to do with it.

That's why I said earlier it sounds like USD has a chip on his shoulder, because I can't imagine why you would legitimately give a shit about being able (or not able) to say it, or if other people say "nigga". Or if other people say nigger straight up.

I would care if you were using it in the actual insulting meaning toward someone, but then it's not the word that bothers me but the thought behind it. But to use the word just as a word, I can't imagine giving a shit one way or the other.

Akina: bitch I will stab you in the face

Words only have weight if you let them have weight.

But since you can't control how other people feel...you can't control how they weight the words you are using. Therefore there is a chance that you could be seriously offending or hurting someone by saying things like this.

My question still stands...why choose the option of possibly hurting someone when there is another option that involves no risk of that?

Well, you just said I can't control how other people feel, so substituting "Nigger" with anything else might invoke the same response, especially since the context behind the word isn't going to change.

"That guy over there is such a ******"
"That guy over there is such a jerk"
"That guy over there is such a dick"
"That guy over there is such a bastard"
"That guy over there is such an asshole"

Are you seriously going to sit here and tell me that one of those sentences is not possibly more offensive than the other?

You are right in that the morale of the story should be what your grandmother taught you since you were a baby:
"If you don't have anything nice don't say it at all"
What I am suggesting is that if you have to say something like this, why not go for the least possibly offensive path?

This case can be made right here.
When you guys use that word, there are some peopl eon the forums that are offended, myself included.
If you were to substitute with "Jerk", then I would not be offended.
Is there a chance that someone has a serious problem with the term "jerk"? Sure...but I think we can all agree that the chances of that are infinitely lower than the N word.

Which brings me back to my point... you're the one getting bothered by words, not me. You can't even bring yourself type the word Nigger for... fear of offending yourself?

In your example, you're suggestively speaking about the guy with the intent to be offensive - Now, with the intent to offend and speak lowly of whomever it is, how come you're able to be offensive but not omgoverthetopoffensive?

PS: For each asterisk in your previous post you subconsciously spelled out N-I-G-G-E-R. Even if you say you didn't, you did. What's more is we know what you meant. We're not in elementary school anymore.

I choose not to type that word based on my own personal morales.
Could care less if you agree with that or not

The implication was that if you MUST be offense, then why not choose the least globally offensive word? I did preface that with "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all".

Assumptions are fun aren't they.
Holding shift and hitting the eight key a bunch of times apparently insinuates more than coincidence.

Morale is high or low spirits.

Moral is a lesson to be taught/learned.

People use the word because it's cathartic to be free of the social pressures of the real world.

Aestu of Bleeding Hollow...

Nihilism is a copout.

There are plenty of other ways to achieve this same thrill besides offending your fellow citizens