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Quittermike · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:17 pm

dek wrote:

2) Regarding Aestu's opinion on the matter... people are irrational. Every person on earth is. If you feel the reason to throw away a relationship is because the other person is being irrational, then you will live alone. QED.

Criticize everyone for being stupid and irrational

Spend 12 hours a day in a fantasy land

Quittermike · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:18 pm

Criticize everyone for being stupid and irrational

Kill one million goblins for a pirate hat

Quittermike · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:21 pm

Criticize everyone for being stupid and irrational

Spend what is now probably in excess of a thousand dollars in server, faction, and name changes

Quittermike · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:22 pm

Criticize everyone for being stupid and irrational

Make it one of your main goals in life to be "the mount guy"

dek · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:23 pm

Necrachilles wrote:

dek wrote:

I read the OP and skimmed some of the thread. Here are my thoughts:

1) It does amuse me that the whole ruckus was over wow. Or any video game. Not an important point but it's still funny to me.

2) Regarding Aestu's opinion on the matter... people are irrational. Every person on earth is. If you feel the reason to throw away a relationship is because the other person is being irrational, then you will live alone. QED.

3) She had an emotional reaction to something, and your apology should have elicited a counteracting emotion reaction. In other words, you handled it in the correct manner. You might have scaled it back a bit but that's not really a big deal. It should work. If it doesn't, then to hell with her.

Edit: I just wanted to add one more thought to the second point. Given that human beings have an emotional side (and thus an irrational side), it is actually highly ILLOGICAL to pretend that it either is not there or is not important. To do so is to simply live in a state of perpetual denial about the way the world actually works.

To that point, I would leave this quote from Lenny Bruce:
"Let me tell you the truth. The truth is what is, and what should be is a fantasy. A terrible, terrible lie that someone gave to the people long ago."

In this case, irrational people and the need to cater to emotional reactions is what is, and the idea that you should only interact with other people on a purely rational basis is the terrible terrible lie.

girls who get emotional over being called bad at a video game when they probabaly are is dumb. For that matter, anyone getting emotional over being called bad at a game is dumb.

That being said, there is such a thing as being too irrational. I can't speak for Aestu but I'm not refering to interacting with people on a purely rational basis. Just that women are 99% of the time not worth the trouble. Now, I'm not going to say I don't have an emotional side or that I pretend it's not there, I just don't need or have any real want of it. I'm pretty sure I could live a full life without a signifigant other and be reasonabally happy. Obviously, chances are I'd be much happier with someone if such a person existed. This isn't to say I shut all possibilities out, just that I'm not going out of my way to find "the one".

tldr: girls are crazy, guys are idiots

Girls that get emotional over (insert unimportant thing here) have hormones that make them emotional over stupid things.

You will never find one that doesn't, unless it's a sexy robot.

ignayshus · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:40 pm

Nech I highly doubt the reason she's mad was bc he told someone she's a baddie.

The real reason otherwise innocuous things get blown out of proportion is bc the real issue is something deeper.

In her case, she may be subjected to ridicule at school and/or home and what she's really upset about is the person she really likes and trusts just made fun of her behind her back. Betrayal in her eyes. Ofc I dont know them, but thats what I mean by deeper reasons than the actual incident that sparked the upset.

Plus teens are hormonal...

Boredalt · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:09 pm

Necrachilles wrote:

This isn't to say I shut all possibilities out, just that I'm not going out of my way to find "the one".

When you have found "the one", you would do almost anything to keep them in your life. Cry. Beg. Grovel. And in many cases, much more. It is easy for you guys to open up a can of bravado, and spray it all over the forums here, but most of you will see, one day. She/he will come into your life, then all of that "she'll/he'll be like this or fuck her/him" will fly right out the window while you think about how you can make them happy.

Sappy? You bet. Unbelievable? If you haven't met them yet, absolutely.

Now, I'd like to see some honesty from the FUBUers. How many of you have been devastated over the end of a relationship, or paralyzed with fear that one might be ending? You might be over it now, even realize how silly you were then, but when it was happening? Let's see a show of hands.

/raise

dek · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:16 pm

Boredalt wrote:

When you have found "the one", you would do almost anything to keep them in your life. Cry. Beg. Grovel. And in many cases, much more. It is easy for you guys to open up a can of bravado, and spray it all over the forums here, but most of you will see, one day. She/he will come into your life, then all of that "she'll/he'll be like this or fuck her/him" will fly right out the window while you think about how you can make them happy.

Sappy? You bet. Unbelievable? If you haven't met them yet, absolutely.

Now, I'd like to see some honesty from the FUBUers. How many of you have been devastated over the end of a relationship, or paralyzed with fear that one might be ending? You might be over it now, even realize how silly you were then, but when it was happening? Let's see a show of hands.

/raise

Agreed. You think you would never do some things until you find yourself in the situation where suddenly, you'll do anything.

One of the most jarring things that happened to me recently was after breaking up with my ex, and then I started kind of halfway dating this other girl (long story), when I thought things were taking a turn for the bad, it kept me up at night thinking about it. With my ex, it didn't matter what happened, I slept like a baby. I came to realize that it had been a long time since I really gave a shit about my ex, and suddenly there was someone I cared about in the equation and things changed.

Azelma · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:20 pm

Boredalt wrote:

When you have found "the one", you would do almost anything to keep them in your life. Cry. Beg. Grovel. And in many cases, much more.

How do you know if you've found "the one"?

I thought I found the one once before...dated her for almost 5 years...then I found out how wrong I was when we broke up.

I don't think there is such a thing as "the one." I don't believe in soul mates. I think there are dozens of people you could potentially have a connection with, but you will never know if that person was "the one" until years in the future.

Basically, if you are on your deathbed, and you are still married to the same person after decades and decades, then yes...you found "the one." That's the only way you can know.

Therefore, I will never again allow myself to make irrational decisions because I believe some chick to be "the one."

dek · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:26 pm

Azelma wrote:

Boredalt wrote:

When you have found "the one", you would do almost anything to keep them in your life. Cry. Beg. Grovel. And in many cases, much more.

How do you know if you've found "the one"?

When you'll do almost anything to keep them in your life, perhaps.

Or when they can see the Matrix for what it is.

Necrachilles · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:41 pm

ignayshus wrote:

Nech I highly doubt the reason she's mad was bc he told someone she's a baddie.

The real reason otherwise innocuous things get blown out of proportion is bc the real issue is something deeper.

In her case, she may be subjected to ridicule at school and/or home and what she's really upset about is the person she really likes and trusts just made fun of her behind her back. Betrayal in her eyes. Ofc I dont know them, but thats what I mean by deeper reasons than the actual incident that sparked the upset.

Plus teens are hormonal...

I didn't say that was the reason just that girls that do that are dumb, as I said their are few exceptions. I listed her using it as a scapegoat for other reasons of breaking it off(though not in those exact words). I just said that girls who freak out because someone told them they were bad at a game is stupid. Furthermore, I saw no mention of it but did she even ask him if it was true or did she just believe his friend? If she didn't I also hate those type of girls too. Not to mention if that's the case, she never really like him in the first place because if she trusts his friend more than him, something is not cricket.

Boredalt wrote:

Necrachilles wrote:

This isn't to say I shut all possibilities out, just that I'm not going out of my way to find "the one".

When you have found "the one", you would do almost anything to keep them in your life. Cry. Beg. Grovel. And in many cases, much more. It is easy for you guys to open up a can of bravado, and spray it all over the forums here, but most of you will see, one day. She/he will come into your life, then all of that "she'll/he'll be like this or fuck her/him" will fly right out the window while you think about how you can make them happy.

Sappy? You bet. Unbelievable? If you haven't met them yet, absolutely.

Now, I'd like to see some honesty from the FUBUers. How many of you have been devastated over the end of a relationship, or paralyzed with fear that one might be ending? You might be over it now, even realize how silly you were then, but when it was happening? Let's see a show of hands.

/raise

But see, that's common knowledge. The problem is, you could waste your entire life on several "this could be the one"s. I think the idea is stupid. I've yet to meet a girl that makes me plus retarded and I fear what would happen/how I would act should I ever find the one. Good thing I'm "emotionally handicapped".

Aestu · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:44 pm

There is no "THE one". Successful relationships are based on compatibility, not passionate love.

Brykon wrote:

It seems as though twords the end of the night she hadn't "accepted" my apology in terms of accepting, but it's more of a time needs to happen thing. Over the span of a few days, I'm pretty much going to have to be completely nice over everything, if that makes scene. She want's to see myself being more nice now over anything. She sees myself as a dick, I don't at all. By a comment so small I would have never thought it would erupt to something like this. I guess I've learned never to tell people anything about a relationship, even if it's the stupidest things in the world. lol

Her behavior is unjustified. She doesn't deserve "nice" behavior. Why should you go out of your way to be "nice" to this person?

Aestu · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:49 pm

ignayshus wrote:

Aestu wrote:

If most people understood why they do things and what they are doing, the world would be a lot better off than it is.

The world doesn't work that way.

Yes it does.

Aestu · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:55 pm

Quittermike wrote:

Criticize everyone for being stupid and irrational

Spend 12 hours a day in a fantasy land

So do you spend every moment of your life in the service of your own self-betterment? I mean, what this thread is about is someone else's real life fantasy. Is that worse than playing a game, knowing exactly what it is? Or watching TV? Or wasting time at the bar, or hobnobbing, or whatever?

Quittermike wrote:

Spend what is now probably in excess of a thousand dollars in server, faction, and name changes

...over the course of three years.

That's less than the cost of a new gaming PC. That's less than half the cost of a cheap vacation. That's probably less than you've spent on various forms of recreation or even just beer or cable TV over that same period of time.

Seems like a pretty good deal for some solid entertainment, the pursuit of a hobby.

Quittermike wrote:

Make it one of your main goals in life to be "the mount guy"

Merely because I take pride in what I have accomplished in this game does not mean it is a life goal.

Aestu · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:59 pm

Boredalt wrote:

When you have found "the one", you would do almost anything to keep them in your life. Cry. Beg. Grovel. And in many cases, much more. It is easy for you guys to open up a can of bravado, and spray it all over the forums here, but most of you will see, one day. She/he will come into your life, then all of that "she'll/he'll be like this or fuck her/him" will fly right out the window while you think about how you can make them happy.

Sappy? You bet. Unbelievable? If you haven't met them yet, absolutely.

Sounds slick. But untrue.

There is no "one" person. There may BE a "one" person, but that's arbitrary, and the reality is that there's many people on God's green earth that any given person can form a stable long-term relationship with.

For that "one" person, begging, grovelling, all that fairy-tale white-knight BS, isn't necessary. It just doesn't work that way. For that "one" person, it just happens, you synergize, fit together. They are as drawn to you as you are to they. If you need to force the relationship that's a sign that it's just not meant to be.

Boredalt wrote:

Now, I'd like to see some honesty from the FUBUers. How many of you have been devastated over the end of a relationship, or paralyzed with fear that one might be ending? You might be over it now, even realize how silly you were then, but when it was happening? Let's see a show of hands.

/raise

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