Jubbergun wrote:
dek wrote:
Eturnalshift wrote:
dek wrote:
Forming a group to go skiing? That's to find people to hang out with. That is a group whose real only purpose is having fun with Jewish and/or Russian friends and making new Jewish and/or Russian friends. And to add a layer of racial exclusivity to that group is absurd and counterproductive to my efforts to join them since I'm neither Jewish or Russian.
But that's the thing, that factor is arbitrary.
I mean, thanks for pointing out THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE THREAD. But you're not making a salient point by doing so.
By that logic, the skiing/hiking part is arbitrary, too.
These people have found a reason in common on which they have formed a group. You seem to be overlooking their main reason for meeting (their ethnicity) in favor of complaining that their ancillary reason for meeting (hiking/skiing/whatever) is more important, when it clearly isn't.
You'd be better off finding some other people to do things with and let your one friend do their thing the one night or so a week without you.
Your Pal,
Jubber
No.
Skiing/hiking are activities that you can enjoy or not enjoy, and enjoying or not enjoying the same activities are directly related to the premise of the group, which is to find people you enjoy spending time with.
The two are directly related.
Being Jewish has nothing to do with it. To think that being Jewish is related is to think that race or ethnicity dictate personality, likes, dislikes, etc.
That's called....
racism.
It's pretty much the definition of racism. Thinking that you can make personal valuations of someone based solely on their race.
Maybe the Jewish aren't gathering because of their nationality or heritage but maybe for the religion Judisim... which doesn't fall under Racism.
Also begs to ask, when a church has a youth retreat is it wrong for the church to only invite members of the youth group? The members of the youth group are most likely going to be of the churches faith, and the trip is paid for by the group... so would you be mad if you couldn't go because you don't share that faith? Granted, camping in the woods is something anyone can do and enjoy but, still, the trip is for members of the church and youth group. Are they bigots for excluding you, person who lacks faith?
