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I need to level Weist (I know, I know). Mah druid is only 83, but whatever. Deepholm sucked the life out of me for a little while, and I'm ready to SWP everything.

Anyone have a halfway decent leveling spec I can copy? I'm figuring shadow/holy, so I can heal FIVE MAN DARGON HUNTING DUNGEONNSNSONSONSONS.

Thanks.

Choosing talents should be pretty straight forward for the new talent tree designs. For Shadow pick whatever would help reduce downtime/cooldowns if you run into a lot of PvP. Holy pick whatever provides most throughput.

http://www.wowhead.com/talent#bcroZZGrMdMkrdzro:RMkkRb
Shadow - from 80-83 build archangel/evangelism
paralysis is nice outside of dungeons, but you'd have to figure out what you'd trade it for...

As to holy or disc... it looks like with the latest patch they're pushing disc for pvp. They nerfed a bit of disc's aoe healing abilities (because of Holy), slightly buffed their heal juggling, and buffed the hell out of shield. If grace ends up picking up a boost to disc's aoe to compensate for the power lost because of Holy, then disc becomes a borderline overpowered spec imho. But that's all up in the air atm.

For now Holy is probably easier to heal with mana wise.
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#b0hZfhrrRorkMko0b:zoVz
Go however you want from there: +2% dmg/healing, +1%haste, ToF

I like your shadow build...the 2 points left (84-85) should go into Shadowy Apparition and Mental Agility respectively imo.

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I disagree with your holy spec though, I'd do something more like this:

http://www.wowhead.com/talent#bchZfhrrRkbkcdoh:zoVz

Personally, I don't like veiled shadows for holy.. i think those 2 points are better invested elsewhere to help your healing output (such as speccing into darkness to give you more haste which helps everything not instant cast, including your "heal" (the low-cost efficient spell you should be spamming most often). Also, even with the reduction in shadowfiend CD, I still think it would take a pretty long boss fight to prove useful.

Body and Soul too is a waste of 2 talent points if you're doing PvE. 1: The remove poison thing is nice, but odds are SOMEONE in the group will be able to remove poisons. Not to mention, again you're losing points for healing output (so you could better heal thru poisons anyway, making it a wash in that situation). I feel like it's better to have improved healing all the time, than to simply have the ability to remove poisons, which would be useful only some of the time. Also, the speed burst thing is nice...I guess...but again, it's PvE.

If you are going to be healing randoms as holy while leveling, I'd also say you should definitely get spirit of redemption -- especially because odds are you might die quite a bit if you're playing with tanks who don't know the dungeons etc. Some priests hate on this talent, and I'm not quite sure why.

Desperate Prayer is getting buffed to 30% of the priest's health, for one point it's not too shabby.

Dvergar /
Quisling

The problem for any healing priest when they get out the gates, imho, is mana. Once you hit 85 and get some more spirit under your belt you respec as appropriate.

The rest is just personal preference:
SoR, I've never liked that talent, even when I used it to Sparta in the fire.
The extra 2 seconds on chakra really isn't necessary. I'm this |---| close to dropping it entirely from my spec for desp prayer.
I like BnS for the same reason I like Rapid Renewal. It augments and existing ability to add occasionally useful utility. Not necessary, but situationally useful.

Do you shadow and holy priests have a method to heal and shadow? I have a terrible priest I'm trying to help but have never healed or dpsd at high levels on a priest.

I've workingon it but id like to get some help from experience.

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http://www.wowhead.com/talent#bcbZZhrMd ... :skRkRbVMz

is what i used to level, basically a pvp build because of the utility. the extra cc from horror, reduced fear cd, and silence is really helpful if you accidently pull more mobs, or if you get jumped for a gank. the glyphed fear is also nice for not pulling extra mobs. definitely get archangel as soon as you can, after that it doesnt matter. left out sw:p talents/glyphs cause most of your damage doesnt come from there anyways and there are better talents/glyphs to use.

during the low 80s healing is pretty much the same as wotlk, your spec shouldnt really matter, but towards 84ish it would probably feel easier as disc since they have less of a mana problem.
id take ignayshus' holy spec over azelmas if you were to go holy. although i'd take the point from rapid renewal and the points from veiled shadows and throw them in darkness. 5 man bosses wont last long enough for veiled shadows to be worth it.

I'm no all-pro badass, but I can do solid DPS and even lead sometimes.

My shadow rotation on bosses is as follows:

Shadow Word: Pain, Devouring Plague, VT, Mind BLast, Mind Flay Mind Flay (once Archangel procs, click it), Mind BLast, Mind Flay Mind Flay ...then it's just Mind Flaying and using Mind Blast whenever it's off cooldown, refreshing Devouring Plague and Vampiric Touch as needed (SW:P refresh happens automatically with mind flay). Also, I always try to end with a Shadow Word: Death when the boss is about to die...I know if I get the killing blow because Spirit Tap procs (I have it glyphed), and it's always very exciting.

As for holy, I've had to adjust my style a lot since Cata. Really the big question is:

Am I AoE healing or single target healing? The answer to that question determines what I do with my Chakra. If it's single target, i'll cast heal after I click chakra to proc the single target heal state. If it's AoE, then i'll throw out a Prayer of Mending after Chakra to proc the AoE heal state (it gives you that spell that casts an AoE healing circle on the ground, similar to the druid one).

Other than that, I always keep renew on the tank (it is refreshed with casting a "heal" or a "greater heal"). I had to learn not to spam renew because that's what I used to do in WotlK when mana meant nothing. The only spell I can say I come close to "spamming" is "heal" because it's dirt cheap, and refreshes renew. It can also proc "Surge of Light" which gives you a free flash heal...which is nice. Chakra state + heal also gives you this instant heal thats like a holy shock. I use that.

Circle of Healing when damage is going out to the whole group. Prayer of Healing if AoE damage is getting out of control - very expensive, use wisely.

If your tank starts taking massive damage, I like to cast ONE flash heal (procs Serendipity - reduces cast time of gheal) then hit him with a gheal. Other things that can give you time are using Power Word: Shield then using a Gheal. Again, very expensive heal...so only use if there's tons of damage going around.

Flash heal is only to be used in emergencies. If you spam flash heal, just quit the game because you're going to go oom fucking fast.

Divine Hymn if the shit hits the fan. Guardian spirit if someone is about to die. Binding heal if you are getting raped and the tank is also taking some big hits (again, expensive heal, use only when needed, if tossing a renew on yourself, or even if you have the time to give yourself a heal...do that)

Prayer of Mending is nice for AoE damage. Obviously make use of dispel and abolish disease as needed. I have dispel glyphed so that it gives a little heal to a target once I dispel. Oh yeah, and cast Lightwell at the beginning before the boss is pulled. Remind DPS to use it.

Idk, that's my play style though, if anyone does shit differently, feel free to share (I'm always looking for ways to improve). I will say that can heal heroics with relative ease now that I have the gear (also assuming I'm not stuck in a group with a bunch of failbots).

Thanks. I'll read all this later and probably spec tomorrow when I have time.


I have a feeling I'm going to be rly bad at priesting for a while, we'll see though.

Clearly you've never done a gauntlet with 3 healing mobs and no dps understanding how to cc.

I had to mana burn two then mc the third in order to have enough to get through.

edit: as to how to dps as shadow:

You need an opener for any mob you're ramping up:
Pain, VT, Flay, Mblast if you get an orb skip if you don't, DP, Priority

You need a priority to follow after you open on a mob:

1. Evangelism and Shadow Orb Buff (buffs our direct damage and dots respectively)
2. Dots (majority of our damage)
3. Shadowfiend (DPS boost is a couple hundred over the course of a fight)
4. Build Archangel (5 stack through flay)
5. Shadow Word: Death below 25% boss hp or personal mana
6. Mind Blast with at least two Orb (do not MB without at least ONE orb, preferably 2)
- - (obviously if the emp shadows buff is going to drop mb with one, because the buff is the top priority)
7. Mind Flay

Holy is another animal entirely: Sadly I don't have the time to write it up atm nor do I have something I can copy paste from another one of my posts like above.

Haha, while it's quite admirable that you'd pro it up in such a way, I personally refuse to carry a group that way.

If I ask for CC's, mark targets, interrupts, etc. and DPS/tanks decide to be retarded anyway, I'll simply drop group. I'll definitely take a 15 minute random lock out over a couple hours of trying as hard as i possibly can to make up for other's lack of skill. There's no MVP award in a dungeon group, so I refuse to work for one ;p

Overall the only difference between our specs (if you take darkness over veiled shadows) is the Body and Soul talent points and Spirit of Redemption. I guess it's all preference - which is nice. Back in the day, talent trees were much more rigid...much more "if you don't spec this way, you are a tard"

lol, yeah usually that's how I feel as well.

I killed a tank on corbus that was trying to flex his epeen at the damage meters by breaking all cc and telling dps to just kill stuff.

When I insisted on CC, he posted the meters and said he was doing fine and "just heal".

I told the dps that I was going to wipe him, so be prepared to run. Tank pulled corbus, and at about 70% of his hp he realized he was the only one fighting the mob and calls out "wtf" in party.

I suggest that if he tries cc he might survive and then we all exit the instance, he gets crushed, he rages, we votekick and have a good laugh at his expense.

I really do wish I could play holy. I fell in love with disc healing and never looked back. My priest was holy for all of about 45 minutes at level 41 and that was it.

9 level 90s and 10 85s, Damn I need another hobby.