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 Post subject: Re: Fun FUBU Facts!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:49 am  
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Picard chain made me lol.


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 Post subject: Re: Fun FUBU Facts!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:09 am  
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Aestu wrote:
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I hate when people say they are a genius. I don't care if it's true or not, I just hate the attitude most put out when they're talking about it.


"People who boast about their IQ are losers."
-Steven Hawking

"Genius" is a misnomer in this context anyway. IQ is potential. Genius is fruition.

It's Dagery.


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 Post subject: Re: Fun FUBU Facts!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:16 am  
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Tehra wrote:
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I have no fucking clue what is going on


Just something that's doing a fine job of dissauding me from fulfilling a request to post 10 things.

It's like all threads turn into WHOSE DICK IS BIGGER!? threads.


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 Post subject: Re: Fun FUBU Facts!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:39 am  
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Joklem wrote:
Usdk wrote:
so she's a genius?


A genius would know that he isn't a genius by how stupid they feel when they're working on something they don't understand.

No one is born with an intuition of physical laws (or anything). They study to learn as much as they can, and they feel stupid most of the time spent past the basics. Anyone can do it, it's hard work and some other factors. Some make great discoveries, and some don't.

Genius is just a label given to those that do. Self-labeling is either humorous, misinterpreted from IQ (understandable) or a product of self-importance or authority taken from a number value.

Richard Feynman's IQ was tested as 124. Here's what he has to say about "honours", "labels" and such:

In conclusion, do what you like as best as you can, and don't worry about that stuff.


Anyone has the raw organic potential to be successful, provided they have the will (which is not guaranteed). Genius, however, requires something more - it requires not only basic ability and willpower but something more, the ability to see beyond the normal human experience. This is why most geniuses have unorthodox lives and beliefs. True genius cannot be acquired by any means besides chance.

Mozart and Salieri is an excellent case study - no matter what Salieri does or how hard he labors, he can never have that quality that elevates his rival above the level of mortal men.

As you pointed out, Feynman is unquestionably a genius, but an IQ of 124 is generally considered sub-clinical genius level.


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 Post subject: Re: Fun FUBU Facts!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:36 am  
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Aestu wrote:
the ability to see beyond the normal human experience.

You're falling for a practical joke.

Lemme tell you about the Joker...
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 Post subject: Re: Fun FUBU Facts!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:08 am  
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It is really irritating that this thread devolved into a semantics debate on the word "genius".

Who gives a shit?

The point was to share something about yourself while learning something new and interesting about the other forum members.


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 Post subject: Re: Fun FUBU Facts!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:11 am  
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 Post subject: Re: Fun FUBU Facts!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:33 am  
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Aestu wrote:
Joklem wrote:
Usdk wrote:
so she's a genius?


A genius would know that he isn't a genius by how stupid they feel when they're working on something they don't understand.

No one is born with an intuition of physical laws (or anything). They study to learn as much as they can, and they feel stupid most of the time spent past the basics. Anyone can do it, it's hard work and some other factors. Some make great discoveries, and some don't.

Genius is just a label given to those that do. Self-labeling is either humorous, misinterpreted from IQ (understandable) or a product of self-importance or authority taken from a number value.

Richard Feynman's IQ was tested as 124. Here's what he has to say about "honours", "labels" and such:

In conclusion, do what you like as best as you can, and don't worry about that stuff.


Anyone has the raw organic potential to be successful, provided they have the will (which is not guaranteed). Genius, however, requires something more - it requires not only basic ability and willpower but something more, the ability to see beyond the normal human experience. This is why most geniuses have unorthodox lives and beliefs. True genius cannot be acquired by any means besides chance.

Mozart and Salieri is an excellent case study - no matter what Salieri does or how hard he labors, he can never have that quality that elevates his rival above the level of mortal men.

As you pointed out, Feynman is unquestionably a genius, but an IQ of 124 is generally considered sub-clinical genius level.


It doesn't stop at that ability, which many people (if not most) have. Looks like we agree but I'll elaborate -- I grew up imagining myself as the bee I was following, asking myself what it sees, if it can see colour, if it can see the flowers as beauty like I could, what makes nature tell that bee that there's something it wants or needs in that, what the hell those things are that I can't see, where do those things come from and how do they form and hold together (not much in the department of knowledge as a yougin)

So it comes as no surprise to me that when I study physics at the minuscule or large scale, I can adjust to proportions in perspective and basically imagine myself as the size of what I'm studying. It just makes it easier to visualize what the mathematics say. The best part is when you dream in those perspectives, imagine dreaming that you're a galaxy drifting away to and from and around others. Big or small numbers make more sense when you can proportionate between that small word, our world, and that huge world.

That's no superpower. It's no secret that everyone visualizes things differently, in terms of "brain imagery". It's like different frameworks. It's hard to explain and it's the reason why there's a universal language for it: mathematics. However well you word a concept, I can translate it to French and make it nonsensical to someone who doesn't understand that language.

But there's more to acclaimed geniuses than that, you have to imagine what you would see, that you don't know, while your perspective is adjusted to that scale, and you have to be right about it and turn it into an equation that can test against experiments at the scale we live in. And that's beyond me and I can't understand them. Maybe that's what mastery of your field leads to. :D

They're the guys who came up with the stuff that gives us headaches in school. That's what we're dealing with here.

I'm usually not one to discuss semantics, but this is a term that shouldn't be used lightly as a confidence boost in children.
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 Post subject: Re: Fun FUBU Facts!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:04 am  
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Henq wrote:
It is really irritating that this thread devolved into a semantics debate on the word "genius".

Who gives a shit?

The point was to share something about yourself while learning something new and interesting about the other forum members.



This. Pretty disappointing, as I was enjoying what everyone was sharing. This kind of nitpicking only discourages others from posting their list (as Tehra noted). Bah.


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 Post subject: Re: Fun FUBU Facts!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:10 am  
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Boredalt wrote:
Henq wrote:
It is really irritating that this thread devolved into a semantics debate on the word "genius".

Who gives a shit?

The point was to share something about yourself while learning something new and interesting about the other forum members.



This. Pretty disappointing, as I was enjoying what everyone was sharing. This kind of nitpicking only discourages others from posting their list (as Tehra noted). Bah.


Meh there's no nitpicking, just a discussion about how we recently started labeling geniuses barely after they're out of the womb. If anything, it's counter-intuitive and puts alot of pressure. Or it can lead to something else, you know the kind - "I'm a genius, here's my mensa card, you're wrong, your turn sir". No one here suggested that anyone is like that here.

It's just a discussion about the recent label phenomenon.
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 Post subject: Re: Fun FUBU Facts!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:18 am  
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Joklem wrote:
Meh there's no nitpicking, just a discussion about how we recently started labeling geniuses barely after they're out of the womb. If anything, it's counter-intuitive and puts alot of pressure. Or it can lead to something else, you know the kind - "I'm a genius, here's my mensa card, you're wrong, your turn sir". No one here suggested that anyone is like that here.

It's just a discussion about the recent label phenomenon.



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 Post subject: Re: Fun FUBU Facts!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:44 am  
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Here you go, something I don't usually do, because you all seem like swell folks (Except the ones I hate).

1. When I was in highschool I got really bad Pneumonia. So bad, it turned into ARDS and I was in a medically induced coma for a month before somehow making it through.

2. I am a 3rd degree blackbelt in Taekwondo.

3. Shredding my right ACL 3 years ago stopped all the aforementioned blackbelting.

4. I moved to Tokyo, Japan on a whim. Dropped what I was doing at school and tenaciously pursued a study abroad 3 months before the leave date. Somehow got it, and went.

5. I originally was a triple major, Chemistry, Mathematics, and Computer Science... I then decided I hate organic chemistry, and dropped Chem from the list.

6. I tend to dislike programming. However, I love the mathematical side of computer science, designing logical proofs and algorithms. Of course, I work as a grunt programmer.

7. I started playing this game on a dare from a friend when it was released. He said I wouldn't be very good at it because I never played Everquest.

8. I cried a lot harder and felt a lot worse when I had my childhood dog put down, than when my grandmother and great grandmother died.

9. I despise television, and most of american popular media today (including most modern video games. Yes, Irony, I play WoW)

10. Pictures of me exist, in Tokyo, wearing a giant pikachu suit, drunk, and running through a park on a dare with some other friends (one of which is wearing a giant Hamtaro suit). I got more phone numbers in that day than any other day in Tokyo. My mind boggles at this. Consequently, if you want to know where to buy ridiculous costumes in Tokyo, I can recommend a few places.


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 Post subject: Re: Fun FUBU Facts!
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Careful myrar, i think about half of your facts may have turned azmaria on.


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Then all of a sudden...

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wait...

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this thread is getting very silly

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 Post subject: Re: Fun FUBU Facts!
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1. When I was in highschool I got really bad Pneumonia. So bad, it turned into ARDS and I was in a medically induced coma for a month before somehow making it through.


Care to give some details about what being in a coma for that long was like for you? Like your recollection of it if there's any?
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