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 Post subject: This is What's Wrong with America
PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:05 pm  
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Little girl at a public school is ridiculously allergic to peanuts. So her public school has made it so kids have to wash hands twice a day and can't bring snacks into the classroom. Parents are protesting - actually picketing, because "child snack time" was canceled etc.

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Students must now wash their hands and rinse out their mouths before they can walk into their classroom. Desks must be regularly wiped down with Clorox wipes. All peanut products have been banned. Snacks are no longer allowed in class. Even outside food is no longer permitted for holiday parties.


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 Post subject: Re: This is What's Wrong with America
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I'm with the parents.


if that kid is violently allergic to something, its up to them to stay away from it. I'm not living in a bubble because some other kid has a genetic defect.


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 Post subject: Re: This is What's Wrong with America
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I'm with the parents.


if that kid is violently allergic to something, its up to them to stay away from it. I'm not living in a bubble because some other kid has a genetic defect.

Agreed. If the whole school has to stop something due to one person, that one person has to go.


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 Post subject: Re: This is What's Wrong with America
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Unfortunately, it's a public school system and the state cannot deny someone an education simply because of a disability (hence why there are special education classes and teachers in public schools).

The bottom line is that it's not that much of an inconvenience, the kids can't have snack time, and simply need to wash their hands twice a day (which they should all be doing anyway).

There's no compassion in society - these kids could learn about community - instead they are learning how to picket and bitch because they have to wash their hands and can't bring snacks into class.


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 Post subject: Re: This is What's Wrong with America
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no, if the kid is allergic to peanuts, they need to just eliminate peanuts from snack time. let them have their apples and oranges and shit.

getting rid of it all is gay.


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 Post subject: Re: This is What's Wrong with America
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Usdk wrote:
no, if the kid is allergic to peanuts, they need to just eliminate peanuts from snack time. let them have their apples and oranges and shit.

getting rid of it all is gay.


Well, and anything that may have peanuts in it. This girl is hella allergic like...DEATH allergic to peanuts.

In any case...fine, eliminate all peanut and peanut products from snack time...what happens if a parent forgets? What happens if grandpa takes care of little Johnny, and doesn't know the rule, then little johnny brings in a peanut product, eats it, then uses a toy, then the girl uses the toy and breaks out in hives/sores or something messed up?

Really, snack time is that important? I don't recall snack time being an essential part of my education. If the kids don't like it, QQ moar. Giving up such a trivial thing to be inclusive and make sure that this child with a disability can have a public school education doesn't seem too ridiculous to me.


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 Post subject: Re: This is What's Wrong with America
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Azelma wrote:
Usdk wrote:
no, if the kid is allergic to peanuts, they need to just eliminate peanuts from snack time. let them have their apples and oranges and shit.

getting rid of it all is gay.


Well, and anything that may have peanuts in it. This girl is hella allergic like...DEATH allergic to peanuts.

In any case...fine, eliminate all peanut and peanut products from snack time...what happens if a parent forgets? What happens if grandpa takes care of little Johnny, and doesn't know the rule, then little johnny brings in a peanut product, eats it, then uses a toy, then the girl uses the toy and breaks out in hives/sores or something messed up?

Really, snack time is that important? I don't recall snack time being an essential part of my education. If the kids don't like it, QQ moar. Giving up such a trivial thing to be inclusive and make sure that this child with a disability can have a public school education doesn't seem too ridiculous to me.


wouldn't that be where the teacher is told "hey, during snack time make sure to check for that shit" ?
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 Post subject: Re: This is What's Wrong with America
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if your teacher can't decide whether or not a snack has peanuts in it, fuck they shouldn't be teachers.


what is this kid going to do when he/she is out in the real world and people who eat peanuts without washing their hands are everywhere?

elt the kids have non-peanut food and make them wash their hands after snack. its probably only a kindergarten class anyway, who gives a shit.


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 Post subject: Re: This is What's Wrong with America
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How allergic is super allergic? If this girl needs to live in a bubble to survive, she shouldn't be imposing the requirement on everyone else. An unreasonably huge amount of food products have peanuts in some form in them. Might as well ban eating.


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 Post subject: Re: This is What's Wrong with America
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Monotheist wrote:
wouldn't that be where the teacher is told "hey, during snack time make sure to check for that shit" ?


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if your teacher can't decide whether or not a snack has peanuts in it, fuck they shouldn't be teachers.



Aye, but what if the kid brings some homemade thing in, and doesn't think it has peanuts in it, and the teacher then looks at it, and can't tell (maybe the peanuts are all mashed up or something)? Also, foods (like peanuts) are sometimes used as flavoring in the process - so you wouldn't see something in that case if it was cooked in peanut oil or something. Again, she's crazy allergic.



I see your guys' point though - and maybe the school should consider alternatives - maybe if they make a list of "acceptable snacks" for snack time, and anything else is not allowed. The point is, the little girl should not be prevented from being in the school (which is what the parents are protesting for). Perhaps the administration just needs to think of more creative solutions to the problem.

The fact that the parents are picketing for this little girl with a disability to be removed from school because their little shit kid can't have snack time is what grinds my gears about the whole thing.


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 Post subject: Re: This is What's Wrong with America
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Yuratuhl wrote:
How allergic is super allergic? If this girl needs to live in a bubble to survive, she shouldn't be imposing the requirement on everyone else. An unreasonably huge amount of food products have peanuts in some form in them. Might as well ban eating.


Not sure exactly. The story on good morning america mentioned that they have a sign on the front door of their house warning about it and that it's a "life and death" allergy.

Part of the issue is obviously a lot of misinformation. The one parent thinks that their kids spend 30 minutes a day washing their hands...that's just retarded and clearly not true.


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 Post subject: Re: This is What's Wrong with America
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It's not a disability, it's an allergy. Lots of people have allergies, and there is a big range between mildly irritating and deadly. If you have a child who is DEATHLY allergic to peanuts, or gluten, or bees, or iodine, or whatever-- until that child is old enough to make responsible and life-preserving choices then it's the responsibility of the parent to protect them.

The big problem with peanuts, as Tuhl mentioned, is that they're pretty much EVERYWHERE. Seriously everywhere, even in things that you'd never associate with peanuts. If there are peanuts somewhere in a factory, there is a disclaimer on the wrapper stating the food may have come in contact with peanuts.

In this situation, either the school is overreacting and making these rules to avoid a lawsuit if the kid were to ever have a reaction, or the kid really is living on the cusp of death every day and should be kept in a controlled environment.

But that's just my opinion and I'm only a dumb girl.


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 Post subject: Re: This is What's Wrong with America
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I agree that this is part the problem in America. All too often we bend backwards to cater to the minority at the expense of the majority. If the teachers and students have to sanitize the classroom and themselves to protect this kid then there is a problem. She should be placed in a different learning environment or, better yet, be home schooled so the parents can control the environment without inconveniencing other students, parents and teachers. It is the parents' responsibility, not the school, to protect that little girl.
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 Post subject: Re: This is What's Wrong with America
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a) They should be washing their hands anyways.

b) Yes, homeschool should be happening if it's that life or death, even if only till the kid knows better. In before Fat Tommy gets upset because he can't have snack time and brings a peanut to school.

c) Snack time was always fun time and it was nice but it's not really all that important. If anything the teachers could take a collect of life $1-2 a week from each kid or their parents (you know kinda like lunch money) if they want their kid to have a snack and then the teachers or a parent or someone who knows what the fuck they're doing should buy safe snacks.


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 Post subject: Re: This is What's Wrong with America
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I remember kindergarten. There was a kid in the class, Josh, who had a severe peanut allergy. Do you know what we had to do every day to protect him from the apparently deadly forces of peanuts? Not bring peanut products into the class. We didn't have to wash our hands and were allowed to eat any snacks we wanted so long as they didn't have actual peanuts in them.

Josh didn't die. Shit, he never even got sick once throughout the whole year. And I know for a fact that at least half the class ignored the "no peanuts" rule on numerous occasions.

This was in the late '90s. So what the fuck has happened over the last decade?

Just home-school the kid if it's that bad.


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