Your take on Ron Paul

thegodslayer · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:21 am

This video made me think of him and since this board has been geared more towards politics lately.

http://youtu.be/-YhQlfk1jN8

What is your take on Ron Paul? Approve? Think he should fuck off? Is bat shit crazy etc etc?

Just wondered what everyone thought.

Dvergar · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:51 am

Ron Paul's worldview (and that of many libertarians) would work if we were still farmers and small business owners with limited reach. In today's world of mega-corporations the thought of giving them free reign is mind-boggling. People rightly complain about the power of these corporations now and the impotence of the average citizen who comes up against them, in a libertarian world there would be no stopping the complete power of the few massively conglomerated companies from controlling pretty much everything.

Azelma · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:41 pm

I like a lot of Ron Paul's ideas. I think drugs should be legal. I don't like the TSA touching my junk. I hate taxes. Etc. etc.

However:

1) I can't take him or his son very seriously since they will never reach the tipping point of voter support to even be considered a legit candidate
2) A lot of his ideas are great on paper - but probably wouldn't work when applied to the real world
3) He's like that crazy uncle you invite to Thanksgiving. He means well, and he provides a lot of entertainment...but he's never going to win turkey-cutting responsibilities because too few people trust him with a knife.

Aestu · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:00 pm

Dvergar wrote:

Ron Paul's worldview (and that of many libertarians) would work if we were still farmers and small business owners with limited reach. In today's world of mega-corporations the thought of giving them free reign is mind-boggling. People rightly complain about the power of these corporations now and the impotence of the average citizen who comes up against them, in a libertarian world there would be no stopping the complete power of the few massively conglomerated companies from controlling pretty much everything.

"If Dvergar and Aestu agree on something..."

Battletard · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:30 pm

Azelma · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:34 pm

That's the most truthful campaign poster I've ever seen.

Battletard · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:40 pm

I simply don't care at this point. I envision myself in 20 years as one of those Montana dwelling gun toting government hating militia leading crazies..just leave me the fuck alone, because I don't give a dead man's last shit about steroid use in baseball, or raising taxes / cutting entitlements when the government will be laughably wasteful anyway. I'm sick of government applying bandaids where open heart surgery is needed.

Address the real problems we face. I am very much in favor of lengthening term limits in an attempt to put an end to the 2 year / 4 year political cycle. We have Senator-elects not even in office already planning their fucking reelection campaign. You kidding me? I'm tired of gotcha politics, where people show a partial clip of an Obama speech and distort everything without focusing on issues. If your response is 'that's just politics' then my response is 'we can and should do better.'

I am TIRED TO ALL HELL of people claiming that because America isn't as bad as North Korea YET, that it never will be. I am sick of complacency. See: Aestu's sig.

Politics can choke on a bucket of AIDS and drown in it's own vomit.

Azelma · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:43 pm

Battletard wrote:

I simply don't care at this point. I envision myself in 20 years as one of those Montana dwelling gun toting government hating militia leading crazies..just leave me the fuck alone, because I don't give a dead man's last shit about steroid use in baseball, or raising taxes / cutting entitlements when the government will be laughably wasteful anyway. I'm sick of government applying bandaids where open heart surgery is needed.

Address the real problems we face. I am very much in favor of lengthening term limits in an attempt to put an end to the 2 year / 4 year political cycle. We have Senator-elects not even in office already planning their fucking reelection campaign. You kidding me? I'm tired of gotcha politics, where people show a partial clip of an Obama speech and distort everything without focusing on issues. If your response is 'that's just politics' then my response is 'we can and should do better.'

I am TIRED TO ALL HELL of people claiming that because America isn't as bad as North Korea YET, that it never will be. I am sick of complacency. See: Aestu's sig.

Politics can choke on a bucket of AIDS and drown in it's own vomit.

*nodding*

mazeltov · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:44 pm

Battletard wrote:

I simply don't care at this point. I envision myself in 20 years as one of those Montana dwelling gun toting government hating militia leading crazies..just leave me the fuck alone, because I don't give a dead man's last shit about steroid use in baseball, or raising taxes / cutting entitlements when the government will be laughably wasteful anyway. I'm sick of government applying bandaids where open heart surgery is needed.

Address the real problems we face. I am very much in favor of lengthening term limits in an attempt to put an end to the 2 year / 4 year political cycle. We have Senator-elects not even in office already planning their fucking reelection campaign. You kidding me? I'm tired of gotcha politics, where people show a partial clip of an Obama speech and distort everything without focusing on issues. If your response is 'that's just politics' then my response is 'we can and should do better.'

I am TIRED TO ALL HELL of people claiming that because America isn't as bad as North Korea YET, that it never will be. I am sick of complacency. See: Aestu's sig.

Politics can choke on a bucket of AIDS and drown in it's own vomit.

With this post you won my heart.

Battletard · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:48 pm

Thank you! Thank you FUBU! Thank you everyone, I'm here all week!

Azelma · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:54 pm

mazeltov wrote:

With this post you won my heart.

So since I also liked the post does that mean you and I can be friends through transitive relation?

Battletard · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:57 pm

I don't see any kind of meaningful changes coming about via the democratic process. I hold the belief that the government, media and social hierarchy are such that they are entrenched in their ways far deeper than simply voting President Jimmy R Buttfuck into office can change.

I don't give a fuck about this country enough to throw the first molotov cocktail though.

Azelma · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:01 pm

Battletard wrote:

I don't see any kind of meaningful changes coming about via the democratic process. I hold the belief that the government, media and social hierarchy are such that they are entrenched in their ways far deeper than simply voting President Jimmy R Buttfuck into office can change.

I don't give a fuck about this country enough to throw the first molotov cocktail though.

Yep, and this is what many people have learned during Obama's presidency. Hell, I think Obama learned it to a degree himself.

All that talk about "Change" and out with the Status Quo....people bought into it. I voted for the guy myself...but I was wary. Clearly, Obama hasn't done much "changing" in Washington. It's still the same political talking point cesspool it was before he was president...it will be the same after he's president.

Look at the debt ceiling issues. This is a HUGE issue, and these politicians keep walking out of talks because they are butthurt. It's pathetic and proof of why this government is ultimately ineffective.

Battletard · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:07 pm

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/07/nfl-owner-robert-kraft-congress-debt-/1

Eturnalshift · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:57 pm

Azelma wrote:

t I was wary. Clearly, Obama hasn't done much "changing" in Washington. It's still the same political talking point cesspool it was before he was president...it will be the same after he's president.

The writing was on the wall you were just too in love to see it.

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