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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone still play, really?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:41 pm  
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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone still play, really?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:42 pm  
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Aestu, selling your soul to the Devil over WoW is just a new low man.

Edit: Also, do you have a 'happy dance' you do when you get a new mount?


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone still play, really?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:50 pm  
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Battletard wrote:
Aestu, selling your soul to the Devil over WoW is just a new low man.


I've been very depressed lately. Even by my own standards.

It was particularly bizarre because Aeonaxx spawned directly in my path as I walked into Deepholme.

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Edit: Also, do you have a 'happy dance' you do when you get a new mount?


Not really. I just smirk, then think about what I'm going to do next.

Joy is not an emotion that comes easily to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone still play, really?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:17 pm  
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Aestu wrote:
I've been very depressed lately


how much would it make you rage if I told you 'everything happens for a reason.'


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone still play, really?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:31 pm  
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It wouldn't. WoW definitely has a strong feedback effect with my depressed temperament, but the truth is, I'm more depressed than anything else by people in real life. They make me even sadder than people in WoW.


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone still play, really?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:05 pm  
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Battletard wrote:
Yuratuhl wrote:
I still play, and I don't bitch nonstop about how much I hate WoW, to boot.


Is this a thinly veiled counter-bitch about bitches bitching about WoW?


so you're a bitch???
Yuratuhl wrote:
I still play, and I don't bitch nonstop about how much I hate WoW, to boot.


I think people don't understand the evolution of WoW properly and that's why people are crying about it. If you really think about all the LF structures they've implemented and then you consider how far the game has come and the new generation of players you just have to really say there really was no choice but to do some of the things they've done. Many of the things that seem to have taken away from what the game once was were things that I've seen people (including me) ask for since vanilla. Now that we have it, you can't help but think blizzard knew why not to implement these things in the first place.


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone still play, really?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:14 pm  
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Spure wrote:
Battletard wrote:
Yuratuhl wrote:
I still play, and I don't bitch nonstop about how much I hate WoW, to boot.


Is this a thinly veiled counter-bitch about bitches bitching about WoW?


so you're a bitch???


WHAT DOES HE LOOK LIKE?!

DOES HE LOOK LIKE A BITCH?!


"Ok we aren't such things and birds are pretty advanced. They fly and shit from anywhere they want. While we sit on our automatic toilets, they're shitting on people and my car while a cool breeze tickles their anus. That's the life."
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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone still play, really?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:15 pm  
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Weena wrote:
Spure wrote:
Battletard wrote:
Yuratuhl wrote:
I still play, and I don't bitch nonstop about how much I hate WoW, to boot.


Is this a thinly veiled counter-bitch about bitches bitching about WoW?


so you're a bitch???


WHAT DOES HE LOOK LIKE?!

DOES HE LOOK LIKE A BITCH?!




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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone still play, really?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:41 pm  
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Spure wrote:
I think people don't understand the evolution of WoW properly and that's why people are crying about it. If you really think about all the LF structures they've implemented and then you consider how far the game has come and the new generation of players you just have to really say there really was no choice but to do some of the things they've done. Many of the things that seem to have taken away from what the game once was were things that I've seen people (including me) ask for since vanilla. Now that we have it, you can't help but think blizzard knew why not to implement these things in the first place.


I don't know if you have me on ignore or not, but whatever.

This is not the best of all worlds...of Warcraft, and to say this is WoW's "proper evolution" implies that it was. That there were no alternatives. That isn't true; there were alternatives to things like daily quests and LFD, such as sub-raids, real outdoor endgame, and realm mergers, something Blizzard doesn't want to do for short-sighted and petty reasons.

The "new generation" of players. First off, they're not homogenous, some of them would in fact prefer a deeper game. Second, alienating the core market to expand sales base is a risky business decision, and one that almost never pays off.

Most importantly, trying to change the MMO paradigm contrary to its definition, to make MMOs appeal to people who don't want what they are, is a losing effort. You can't change the nature of the beast, and trying to do so will only alienate the core market while still losing the munchkins and ADD hordes to games that are fundamentally more suited to their mindset - FPSes, console games and what have you.

Try to please everyone and one will ultimately please no one.

Vanilla wasn't perfect, but if it didn't do a lot of things right, it wouldn't have been successful. Second-guessing success is foolhardy. Good and bad ideas have come in the door, and a lot of good ideas have been botched through shoddy implementation.


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone still play, really?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:00 pm  
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if you think wow got bad, you shouldve played planetside start to finish.


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone still play, really?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:27 pm  
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Battletard wrote:
how much would it make you rage if I told you 'everything happens for a reason.'


:D


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone still play, really?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:45 pm  
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Aestu wrote:
the truth is, I'm more depressed than anything else by people in real life. They make me even sadder than people in WoW.


Man, that's truly depressing...people in WoW make me pretty fucking sad.

In order of people that make me sad:

5. People in real life

4. People in novels

3. People in WoW

2. People Magazine

1. Women


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone still play, really?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:52 am  
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Most of my heroes / people I look to for inspiration and support are in books. I do not read contemporary novels, and People Magazine looks like a mess of random shapes and colors to me.

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Caesar served in 63 BC as a quaestor in Spain, where in Cadiz he is said to have broken down and wept in front of a statue of Alexander the Great, realizing that where Alexander had conquered most of the known world at thirty, Caesar at that age was merely seen as a dandy who had squandered his wife's fortunes as well as his own.

Caesar returned to Rome, determined to achieve political standing...

-Plutarch, Roman Lives


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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone still play, really?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:58 am  
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Azelma wrote:
Aestu wrote:
the truth is, I'm more depressed than anything else by people in real life. They make me even sadder than people in WoW.


1. Women

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 Post subject: Re: Does anyone still play, really?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:52 pm  
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Battletard wrote:
Aestu, selling your soul to the Devil over WoW is just a new low man.

New low? Come on, it's been nearly five years since he first left the crossroads with a magical musical instrument. It was a done deal then and it's a done deal now. At this point, I'm just waiting for him to either kill himself, go on a bloody rampage in a public area, or track down and kill most of the people on FUBU. Though he'll likely still end his own life in the latter two scenarios, so I'm betting on suicide if anything. Perhaps we could put together an e-pot to bet on what's going to happen to him? I'd be down.
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