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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:43 am  
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I'm going to work backwards here.

Yuratuhl wrote:
What about them? I don't really get what you want with this question.


He wants to prove that private companies can make their own rules, which as a Paul supporter he is for, unless those rules disadvantage him, in which case it's totally unfair.

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when the reality is something else.


You couldn't offer any evidence of your skewed reality, so you gave up. Nice cognitive dissonance, bro.


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 Post subject: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:57 am  
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Dvergar wrote:
I'm going to work backwards here.

Yuratuhl wrote:
What about them? I don't really get what you want with this question.


He wants to prove that private companies can make their own rules, which as a Paul supporter he is for, unless those rules disadvantage him, in which case it's totally unfair.

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when the reality is something else.


You couldn't offer any evidence of your skewed reality, so you gave up. Nice cognitive dissonance, bro.


I'm not a Paul supporter but please, do continue to grace us with your seemingly limitless knowledge.

Privately owned companies are free to make whatever internal policies they'd like.

These policies are usually biased in favor of people rockin' vaginas instead of penises, and they are usually not out of concern for the female employee, but due to public outcry (whiny bitches) and their image which they try to promote a portray an image of.. Get ready for it...

FAMILY FRIENDLY

With family usually meaning women with children, and men with parental responsibilities can suck a dick because there are probably so few of them anyway.

(sand in my vag feminist comment about deadbeat fathers here)


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 Post subject: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:59 am  
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Even if you disagree with my thinking, do you at least see where I am coming from?


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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:27 am  
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I'm not a Paul supporter


My apologies, I was misled by the Paul thread in which you argued in defense of his policies.

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With family usually meaning women with children, and men with parental responsibilities can suck a dick because there are probably so few of them anyway.


If a woman is allowed to leave because of a family responsibility and you aren't, that's not right.

If a woman is allowed to leave and you don't because you don't ask or make other plans to stay, that's your fault not the company's.


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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:48 am  
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I would like a million dollars.
More plausible. I would like my date to open doors for me.

EDIT: Change of approach.

Azelma and I both cited detailed personal experiences, as well in other threads, about this sort of bias. I linked, and highlighted sections from, a document written in pure doublespeak institutionalizing numerical and institutional inequity while paying lipservice (redundantly so) to equality under law. So, we've provided some hard evidence, both anecdotal and statistical.

Dvergar, do you actually have any evidence that fewer requests are causally why men receive less benefits? For example, do you have hard numbers on how many such requests are approved or contested? Do you even have hard proof that fewer requests are made?


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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:16 am  
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Dvergar wrote:
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I'm not a Paul supporter


My apologies, I was misled by the Paul thread in which you argued in defense of his policies.

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With family usually meaning women with children, and men with parental responsibilities can suck a dick because there are probably so few of them anyway.


If a woman is allowed to leave because of a family responsibility and you aren't, that's not right.

If a woman is allowed to leave and you don't because you don't ask or make other plans to stay, that's your fault not the company's.



I've consistently maintained that libertarianism as a personal philosophy is admirable, but not practical to apply widespread as a means of governing.

And yes, I've informed my boss multiple times of my need to leave *on time* not early to take care of my twin boys. The one time that I left *on time* without permission and against my manager's direction to stay until the freight was finished (easily another 2 hours of work. fuck off lowe's) all while we are completely and totally understaffed. I got written up for this. Not even two weeks later I was written up for leaving a minimal amount of freight that I believed to be new products and was mistaken on one of the department desks. This is the policy to follow if you have new product. Due to the sheer volume of freight levels we deal with, and how almost comically understaffed we are, I absolutely do not have time to dick around looking for a particular item when it could be in Aisle 7, Aisle 8, Aisle 9, an endcap or not even be officially recorded as received yet.

The one time I left *on time*, I was written up. I've told my boss many times that I need to be out by 5:30 AM. What the fuck does he care?

FYI, I am for women having the right to leave as scheduled, I just believe men should also be afforded that right per company policies. That is discrimination, by definition. Spin it however you will.


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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:24 am  
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To clarify, it's company policy that a woman doing your job would be able to leave on time due to familial responsibilities? Are you comparing two different positions within your company in regards to who can and cannot leave?


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 Post subject: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:43 am  
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Dvergar wrote:
To clarify, it's company policy that a woman doing your job would be able to leave on time due to familial responsibilities? Are you comparing two different positions within your company in regards to who can and cannot leave?


We dont have any females on our overnight team though we have had them more than one in fact, in the past. Regardless of role, im essentially a grunt. So female customer service associates and floor sales associates are on basically the same level. We aren't middle management per company hierarchy though our responsibilities and pay might as well say otherwise.

I don't wanna threadjack and turn this into a Wahh feel sorry for me on an individual level, just wanted to cite a real life example that really does directly affect me.


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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:06 am  
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company policy on paper =/= company policy in effect.


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 Post subject: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:09 am  
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I am both pleased and amazed that despite how much shit throwing there has been, myself included (BAD REACT) no one has pulled the 'don't have kids, fag' trigger.


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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:17 am  
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Battletard wrote:
I am both pleased and amazed that despite how much shit throwing there has been, myself included (BAD REACT) no one has pulled the 'don't have kids, fag' trigger.


If cloning were available to me, I don't know if I could resist the temptation to "try again".

I don't know if Dvergar has me on ignore or if he's just ducking my question. Whatever.


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 Post subject: Dumb article is dumb.
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Aestu wrote:
Battletard wrote:
I am both pleased and amazed that despite how much shit throwing there has been, myself included (BAD REACT) no one has pulled the 'don't have kids, fag' trigger.


If cloning were available to me, I don't know if I could resist the temptation to "try again".

I don't know if Dvergar has me on ignore or if he's just ducking my question. Whatever.



Raise a bb Aestu?

'ok little man, show daddy how you do the trash pulls for this wing'


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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:40 am  
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No, more like engage in extreme hothousing. Have the clone master a dozen languages, calculus, electrical and biological engineering, physics, chemistry, world history and military tactics and strategy by the age of 12. I had the capacity to support that at an early age, but educational institutions "weren't equipped to handle Ethan".

Also, the clone would not be afflicted by my fetal defects and chemical abuse. On that basis alone he'd probably be a good four inches taller than I am, to say nothing of increased intelligence and mental dexterity (and also a lot more coherent on vent).

Imagine how powerful such a creature would be.


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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:54 pm  
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masculism

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 Post subject: Re: Dumb article is dumb.
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