Usdk wrote:
I have no idea if they're using provo's or not. I saw those pictures about oakland, but it didn't look like they were starting trouble, so from the evidence that i've actually seen, I don't think they are. Show me police using agents provocateur.
It's known that they do and the tactic is fundamentally based on secrecy and deceit. So long as they defend the tactic and reserve the right to use it, it will always be a legitimate suspicion.
You saw you "saw" pictures that "didn't look like" the cops were starting trouble. Which pictures? Based on what? How do you know?
Usdk wrote:
You're right. But It's a competitive market. If I went to school for criminal justice, I don't have any business applying to become a neuro surgeon. People who went to med school for neuro surgery would and SHOULD beat me for the job.
This analogy is completely unreal because I specifically made reference to entry-level, working-class jobs. Only in your mind is there this black-and-white distinction between being unemployed and being a neurosurgeon.
Usdk wrote:
I'm not talking about the heads of trading firms, I'm talking about John Q Trader who invests in the market to make some cash in the long haul who lost everything to this recession. Not to mention the ones whose retirements were dependent on their wall street investments. It happened to people I know, and if they didn't have backup plans they'd be begging for food on the corner.
Show me any evidence there is such a person.
Usdk wrote:
We get it, you hate cops. Yes there are bad cops, I've repeatedly agreed with this point and you're beating a dead horse with the faded gravestone. But there ARE "protesters" who are there to start shit, and you fucking know it, so stop being so obtuse.
So why does one justify suspicion and collective punishment but not the other?
Usdk wrote:
You spewing bullshit from your parents basement =/= respect for anything. Your fat agoraphobic fucking ass hasn't the courage to go join anything that you talk up on these forums, as evidenced by the fact that you HAVEN'T. You're a TV pundit with an audience of 0. Go DO something worthwhile or sit back like the rest of us and acknowledge that nothing you as a single person can do that would affect aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanything.
Same to you. Who are you and what are you doing?
You're right, I don't have as much courage as some people. Neither do you. The difference is that I don't need to disdain or whatever exceeds my capacity. I don't draw this false extreme between, "redneck slob with no ideals" and "spandex-clad defender of truth, justice and the American way".
Only someone who fails at life would see it in such black and white terms. Life is all about trying to make the best of it, trying to be a just man, trying to do your small measure to push things in the right direction. That is life's challenge.
One of life's greatest, but most important, challenges, is simply thinking about things, figuring it out, talking about it, etc. You don't always get the assurance that your small efforts will please St. Peter.
