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Nobody who knows what they're talking about. I know a girl who went to art school (SCAD in Savannah) and currently does computer animation for Scholastic. They don't use macs, and she personally hates them.

People who do work that's intensive enough to require render farms don't give a shit what OS they're running, so long as their software works. Since macs are fundamentally inferior technologically, I'd venture that the hardware in any worthwhile render farm isn't Apple-based.

Architects use drafting programs, which run on literally any box since 1990.

The best synthesizer programs are for linux, so you're still wrong in regards to music.

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Shuruppak Yuratuhl
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Goddamn it double post.

Hey, I just know what I see people using.

If Macs were as terrible as everyone here is claiming, people in these fields wouldn't be using them at all. And professional musicians and recording artists wouldn't be using them.

There's this thing called marketing, and it works.

Most of these people aren't experts, they just didn't do the research and picked what was most visible.

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Shuruppak Yuratuhl
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Right on.

However you can't convince me that there is no possibility for a benefit of the integrated software/hardware that the Macintosh provides that a PC cannot.

I get it, PCs are more powerful overall, and more bang for your buck, more easily customizable and upgradeable. But there's something to be said about the integrated user experience offered by a Mac.

No there isn't, that's just the thing. People being idiots never makes up for a superior experience. There's no such thing as majority rule or group consensus on what's observably better. The only thing to be said is "these failures are lazy and will justify their laziness by claiming what they do is better than the demonstrably superior option."

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Shuruppak Yuratuhl
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Perhaps some people with less computer knowledge consider a superior experience to be one where they don't have to worry about some of the things PC users have to. Perhaps they prefer having a product that is entirely controlled and produced by one company, so they don't have to worry about drivers, compatability, etc.

1v1 PCs have better capabilities than Macs, and far greater personalization opportunities. I don't dispute that.

But perhaps there are people who care less about that and prefer ease of use.

I know I'm calling Mac users dumb and lazy.....truthfully a majority of them are when it comes to computers. So someone like that doesn't mind paying extra for a closely integrated system, and doesn't care about having the best technology available. If you're arguing PCs give a universally better end-to-end user experience, I don't think that's correct at all.

The thing with musicians and artists is that many of them aren't tech geeks. They might be willing to sacrifice better graphics, ram, raw processing power, what have you, for a machine and software that allows them to easily pick it up, turn it on, and start focusing on what they really want to do which is create music or art. I think Macs are fundamentally better at this.

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I think this is (in part) why Macs sell. All the parts are made for each other, by the same company, and everything is designed towards ease of use. Most gamers laugh at people using Macs, but most gamers don't realize they're probably head and shoulders above the average person when it comes to computers. Screen goes dead, we start problem-solving. The average person fiddles the cord a little, then usually seeks someone else to fix it.

I think that's part of the reason consoles are still around. Ease of use tends to be a big selling point.

Spoken like a true Mac user, which is what the rest of the relatives on my Dad's side of the family say. They are the exact, THE EXACT same thing.

Hit power button
Open Photoshop CS 5, 3DMax, AutoCAD, <insert anything else>
Make something with it
Power down later

There is absolutely nothing Apple offers better other than a glossy finish on outdated hardware for triple the cost. The only worthwhile products Apple has was the original iPod and now an iPhone. Hell, their "student" version of a Mac was $1,000 when advertised. You can make a hackintosh for half of that and have better hardware.

It's like complaining about the Windows tax on laptops, but the Mac tax is complete ineptitude.

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It's funny to read this conversation, knowing that my friend's response for, "Why did you buy a mac?" would be nothing more than "Uh, because it's sleak, man." After digging at a reason for why he bought a macbook, he says, "Well, they're also reliable, easy to function, and it's hip."

I ended my argument with him after he said that. He's pretty hardheaded, so there's no use in arguing certain topics.

When people criticize Macs they always have to go after the price point. Yes, it's overpriced and you're paying a "cool tax," your point? If it was too expensive for everyone, they wouldn't sell.

Again, the PC has the capabilities to do pretty much everything better in terms of power, customization, etc. but Apple has the technological novice user experience down to a T. You can't deny it. If you don't care to learn more about computers, don't want to troubleshoot anything, and prefer to let a 3rd party do all the work for you, the Mac is superior. Also, in terms of synching all your products? iPhone, iPad, Laptop, Desktop, iPod, whatever? Apple is just much better at it.

You yourself admit how your relatives on your dad's side use their Macs. They don't want a PC they have to defrag or worry about anti-virus software, or worry about all the different parts that came from different companies. They don't want to call one company about a problem and have them say "oh, actually it's a problem with this part from this company"

I get it, you are a tech savvy PC user. Your machine can game like no other. I don't understand why you attack the evils of the Mac platform when it's a platform that just isn't for you.

The "antivirus software" part always gets me. Do you fucking retards not realize that macs can be compromised?

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If you're 'into' music and want to peddle around, or if all you make is shitty electronic music (as in, the music is shitty, not the genre), then macs are the way to go.

When you want to make actual music you go out and get actual gear, and that gear doesn't have an apple logo on it.

Pandering to stupid people is a good way to make money, but you can't argue that it makes it a better product.

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Your friend is still shit.

And the reverse of that is "but anti-virus software!". Protip, Macs are not invulnerable. The PC equivalent of a "cool tax" is buying Alienware and anyone who buys one should be made fun of non stop.




Windows 7 made just about everything casual friendly. I don't know what you mean by 3rd party doing all the work unless you mean Remote Assistance.



Apple is better at it because Apple has a logo on those products. The rest of the world uses Dropbox or a similar tool.



My relatives use Macs and their rational is they don't know what a SUCH SEX LEG link looks like. My uncle paid $800 for a 5 year old mac and I facepalmed so hard. As for problems and calling random companies about some issue, nobody does that. You either pull up your favorite search engine and look for answers or you call Dell/whatever company you bought your prebuilt at and they either tell you the answer in 10 minutes or less or ask you to bring it in. Possibly doing Remote Assistance depending on who it is.


At the very least, if you want to use Mac OS, build a hackintosh. Stop supporting overpriced, outdated trash with a silver or white gloss painted on it.

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