The Media's Role in Perpetuating Mass Shootings

Azelma · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:33 am

EVERYONE - I solved the THREAD!!!!!!!!! See below:

Azelma wrote:

Let me ask you something, Aestu.

Who do you think is happier and leading a more fulfilling life? Usdk, or you? Me or you? Weena or you? Eturnal or you? Cally or you? Jubber or you? Anyone else on FUBU or you?

Who goes to bed happier? Who smiles more? Who laughs more? Who loves more? Who hates less?

Aestu wrote:

That is the fundamental difference between you (and they ) and I. Happiness is much lower on my hierarchy of values. You equate what is good or honorable with what makes one happy. I do not.

/thread

Eturnalshift · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:55 am

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I'm sure civilian gun ownership saves more lives than it costs.

/drippingwithsarcasmtryingnottodielaughing

Would you rather have a constitutional amendment which outlaws all civilian use of firearms? You guys are all against non-criminal people owning firearms but you haven't stated what you would rather do and how your option would be better for everyone.

Aestu · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:06 am

Eturnalshift wrote:

Would you rather have a constitutional amendment which outlaws all civilian use of firearms?

Yes.

Eturnalshift wrote:

You guys are all against non-criminal people owning firearms

No, you are. We understand that everyone is a non-criminal until they commit a crime.

Eturnalshift wrote:

but you haven't stated what you would rather do

Ban firearms, or severely restrict them.

Eturnalshift wrote:

and how your option would be better for everyone.

Mns · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:43 am

Eturnalshift wrote:

Guy goes into a store and buys a knife. He then goes outside and starts screaming, "You killed my people" while stabbing random people with the knife he just purchased. Stabbed a dude in the stomach, stabbed another in the head and arms. A third guy with a conceal carry permit drew his weapon and told the stabber to drop the weapon or he'd shoot. The man dropped his weapon and no shots were fired.

Anyone else wondering how a dude got stabbed through the head? Talk about impressive.

Usdk · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:46 am

http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20100107/articles/100109828

This story won't get much traction but holy shit.

Aestu · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:30 pm

Tabor City has a population of 2,509. The article consists of favorable anecdotes by two people, some guy in a True Valley hardware store and someone who works on his campaign. Apparently in a town of 2,509, some random duder who works at a hardware store and someone who works on his campaign are the best that can be found to give more than ambivalent opinions of Soles' character. And now we hear he's skipped town. Go figure.

http://www.wwaytv3.com/2009/08/05/alter ... olice-busy

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Last week, a Columbus County house burned down in a suspicious fire. Since then, we've been looking into the relationship between the boy who lived there, 17-year-old Allen Strickland and the man who Strickland says paid for the house, Senator R.C. Soles. The two have known each other since Strickland was 14. The 74-year-old Senator befriended Strickland, and served as his attorney, but the two have a rocky relationship.

Soles has a rocky relationship with many of his clients, as proven by dozens of police reports, just in the last year. There are about 20 reports, nearly all of them involving altercations between the Senator and his clients.

"This has been sort of an ongoing thing with a lot of clients and ex-clients. I've been here for five years, and it's kind of a steady amount of calls of that nature,” said Capt. Dean Foley of the Tabor City Police Department. While a handful of calls involve the Senator calling in complaints about 17-year-old Allen Strickland. Other young, male clients have been involved in the disputes as well. The nature of the complaints range from trespassing at the senator's law firm and residence, to larceny, harassment, and even extortion.

The Senator's calls for help come in at all hours of the day and night. They take up a lot of time for the police department, but rarely result in prosecution. "He doesn't want to press charges the majority of the time,” Foley said.

Soles is a serial pedophile and legal extortionist who is being disbarred because he has a long history of inviting young clients to his home then holds them at gunpoint and accuses them of serious crimes with no witnesses after they refuse his sexual advances. He has apparently done this on dozens of occasions.

Despite all this, the NRA gives him a "A" rating because of his pro-gun stance.

Guns prevent crimes, right? Right? Right?

Usdk · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:33 pm

actually he's anti gun.

Aestu · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:42 pm

Usdk wrote:

actually he's anti gun.

Yeah, about that. I'm already a step ahead of you.

Your belief that he is anti-gun stems from a series of editorials promulgated by the gun lobby after these horrible accusations came out:

The propaganda, on a credible and balanced mainstream site like Field & Stream:
http://www.fieldandstream.com/forums/ba ... s-intruder

Debunked:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/soles.asp

He's gotten B and A ratings from the NRA over the years.
In 2010-2011, when the accusations rolled in, they turned on him.

You've been successfully manipulated by propaganda. Congratulations. But you haven't just been manipulated, you're been brainwashed, proof being you'll go right on believing what you do even after all these facts have been presented.

Fantastique · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:49 pm

Another two pages, and the pro-guns are still getting their asses handed to them. Are you guys seriously unwilling to waver from your stances no matter how much thrashing you receive?

Aestu · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:54 pm

Fantastique wrote:

Another two pages, and the pro-guns are still getting their asses handed to them by way of the very materials they link

Azelma · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:07 pm

I'm pro gun, but anti bullets.

Can't wait to see how Aestu and Co. spin THAT one.

Battletard · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:10 pm

Azelma wrote:

I'm pro gun, but anti bullets.

Can't wait to see how Aestu and Co. spin THAT one.

Pistol whipping

Usdk · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:22 pm

Ah the nra turned on a guy who supports their business because he allegedly fucks kids?

those evil bastards.

Aestu · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:55 pm

Usdk wrote:

Ah the nra turned on a guy who supports their business because he allegedly fucks kids? those evil bastards.

No, they turned on him because he was making them look bad.

They LIED about their connection with him and his prior support of their policies.
They LIED and said that he was anti-gun when he was in fact strongly pro-gun.

He doesn't just "fuck kids". He uses guns and possibly arson in his crimes and hides behind the "home as castle" laws you advocate.

Quote:

You've been successfully manipulated by propaganda. Congratulations. But you haven't just been manipulated, you're been brainwashed, proof being you'll go right on believing what you do even after all these facts have been presented.

You linked a news article that you didn't have the reading comprehension and critical thinking skills to analyze so you could understand what was actually going on, then you read another editorial about he was anti-gun, and didn't have the critical thinking skills to analyze that either and understand why it was all lies.

And now that someone who actually has decent reading comprehension and critical thinking skills has connected the dots for you, you will STILL construct some crazy ass rationalization about why it ain't so.

You thought it was a case of a man being persecuted for defending his home with a gun. Instead it turned out to be something about as evil as it gets, a corrupt politician and lawyer who used guns and the gun lobby to empower him to sexually molest children.

What you thought was a case of guns ensuring safety of the home in fact proved to be a case of guns enabling the most vicious and despicable crimes there are.

Yet you'll still proceed just as if it were the former. You're brainwashed.

Anyway, I feel comfortable declaring victory here. Thread over!

Usdk · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:04 pm

Actually I only read the one article, because I thought it was funny.

And if he had used a knife to attack those people who I'm guessing he invited to his home, would you think knives should be illegal? A shithead used a gun. The shithead is the problem. Criminals, which Soles almost certainly is, will find a way to commit their crimes.

Tell me, not that I'll bother reading the upcoming novel you're going to write about it in response, how would YOU get rid of all the guns in america, avoid a prohibition-esque black market, and get rid of all the illegal, unregistered weapons already in the states?

You scoff at laws that are unenforcable, yet champion gun control like it's even a remote possibility.

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