You know, I'd hate this bitch even if she wasn't ugly.

Yuratuhl · **Posted:** Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:10 pm

It's short, don't feel like you need to avoid it.

Aestu · **Posted:** Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:31 pm

The feminists have made a big deal of allying with business interests by way of highly vocal "successful" wealthy women who have benefited in one way or another from the status quo. This particular one I've seen before, seen similar pitches about Chinese businesswomen. Or Christine Lagarde.

That she is female is the only reason anyone sees her as somehow more worthy than any other person who got their fortune from out-and-out inheritance. Like, she can't even claim to be someone like Romney or Cain who stole the money; she was born to it.

Honestly people are so goddamn stupid it makes it very difficult for me to have much sympathy.

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How can we mine a mine if you're alread mining it? How can we farm on fruitful soil, if you already are? How can we harvest a woodland that you've already cut an automated swathe through? How can I reap from the waters you've filled with poison? How can we homestead on private property? Is she telling people that they should seize the natural resources of the world from those who are already enterprising there?

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Spacehunter · **Posted:** Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:29 pm

aussie miners are some of the worst kind of millionaires

Spacehunter · **Posted:** Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:30 pm

billionaires*

Usdk · **Posted:** Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:20 pm

It's not bad advice, even if she absolutely shouldn't be the one giving it, and that it won't solve every problem.

But working harder is never a terrible idea, and working smarter is always a good idea.

Aestu · **Posted:** Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:32 pm

Usdk wrote:

It's not bad advice.

Yes it is, because what it really is, is a rationalization for the status quo. It's outrageous to tell everyone they should toil away because the rich don't want things to change.

It's no different than the naive Boxer saying "I will work harder" in Orwell's Animal Farm.

Would you take this crap from Josef Stalin? No? Then why take it from her?

Usdk · **Posted:** Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:45 pm

I'm not saying it will fix everything. Or anything. And she's a cunt for being on her high horse and saying that shit.

But there are people who can better their lives by working harder. Spending less money on bullshit and more time working. Etc. The rich aren't 100% of the problem, and they won't be 100% of the solution.

Aestu · **Posted:** Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:31 pm

Usdk wrote:

I'm not saying it will fix everything. Or anything. And she's a cunt for being on her high horse and saying that shit.

But there are people who can better their lives by working harder. Spending less money on bullshit and more time working. Etc. The rich aren't 100% of the problem, and they won't be 100% of the solution.

If we lived in North Korea or the USSR, would you say that about the Communist Party? That it's not entirely the Communist Party's fault that life in a Communist state sucks? Or that we should work harder to better our meager lives if we lived under a Communist government?

What if there were a war and China conquered the US and set up a puppet state that expected us to work hard to send resources back to China? Would you then say that we should work harder to better our lives, that it's 100% the fault of the puppet state that our lives suck?

No? Then why split the difference here? It adds up to the same thing, which is that control of resources and the political system are in the hands of people who are not us. Whether that's the Communists, the Chinese, or oligarchs, what difference does it really make?

Don't you think that if the Communists or Chinese took over the country, they would set up pro-Chinese and pro-Communist propaganda to con people into being their cronies? To convince the American people that their new overlords are benign? When the Soviets conquered East Germany, they did just that, and 50 years later enough people were convinced that the Communist Party still polls well enough in East Germany to be a viable mainstream party - but not in the West. In fact a lot of East Germans would like to have the Communists back (go watch the movie Goodbye, Lenin!). Why? Because they fell for the propaganda.

So isn't it logical to think that you are being similarly influenced by propaganda - that you thinking to split the difference is the propaganda having its effect, just as in every other country under the control of some exploitative authority? Isn't it more logical to think to resist that oppressor than to do what it wants you to do?

Dotzilla · **Posted:** Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:37 pm

1. women
2. logic

pick one.

Kayllaira · **Posted:** Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:47 pm

Dotzilla wrote:

1. women
2. logic

pick one.

I'm logical, so I guess that makes me a bro.

Aestu · **Posted:** Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:50 pm

Dotzilla wrote:

1. women
2. logic

pick one.

Who's more the fool, the fool, or the fool who follows the fool?

Aestu · **Posted:** Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:03 pm

Kayllaira wrote:

I'm logical, so I guess that makes me a bro.

Logical women can be quite...useful.

(and yes it is what you think it is)

Meowth · **Posted:** Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:06 pm

Aestu wrote:

Dotzilla wrote:

1. women
2. logic

pick one.

Who's more the fool, the fool, or the fool who follows the fool?

You.

Dotzilla · **Posted:** Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:02 am

Kayllaira wrote:

Dotzilla wrote:

1. women
2. logic

pick one.

I'm logical, so I guess that makes me a bro.

i'm sorry, but your brain chemistry and functioning physiologically limit you from the same level of singular process determinations that are capable of men. your gender also is physically weaker, the strongest woman paling in comparison to the strongest man. your physiologies are also weaker, giving you higher susceptibility to cancer, lower bone density, a lower capability of processing complex fats and amino acids. female creatine levels are dismally low compared to the average male, giving them a clunky and mutationally susceptible central nervous system implementation.

rosie the riveter was incorrect, some of it you just can't physically do.

Aestu · **Posted:** Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:50 pm

Dotzilla wrote:

i'm sorry, but your brain chemistry and functioning physiologically limit you from the same level of singular process determinations that are capable of men. your gender also is physically weaker, the strongest woman paling in comparison to the strongest man. your physiologies are also weaker, giving you higher susceptibility to cancer, lower bone density, a lower capability of processing complex fats and amino acids. female creatine levels are dismally low compared to the average male, giving them a clunky and mutationally susceptible central nervous system implementation.

On average.
Kay is simply not average.

(also some of your claims are medically untrue. women are less susceptible to mutation and deformity because they have a redundant X chromosome and slower metabolism.)

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