Azelma wrote:
Necrachilles wrote:
I feel bad cause you and Azelma are cool bros but people like you, people that just sit there and take it, I camp. I camp until they can't take it anymore and fight back, maybe get some friends or just log off. If they get more people than I can handle and I can't get backup, then maybe I'll leave. If they just log off, then I'll wait an hour, sometimes 3 or 4 depending on what I've got going on and how funny I think it will be to kill them as soon as they log back in. Then, after waiting 3 hours, kill them only once and walk away. That's normally all it takes to break a man.
One time, I camped a lowbie for 3 hours. She told me she was just going to let me kill her so I told her to spirit rez so I didn't have to wait all day for her rez timer. She took rez sick I think 47 times before she realized I wasn't going to stop. Then conceded and logged.
tldr: I was a dick with no life (perhaps still am?) but it was fun
Haha wow.
Here's the thing I don't understand about that...I mean, you're really just ruining someone's enjoyment of the game. And if they're a low enough player...they are
never going to beat you. What's the point in even fighting back? You have the deck completely stacked in your favor. Your enjoyment is completely coming at the expense of ruining someone else's experience. And as for their friends...maybe they don't have any online. Maybe they're new to the game and haven't established friendships like that yet. Who knows.
I won't sit here and say I've never ganked a lowbie - so I can see how it's funny....but I've certainly never camped a lowbie, or spent hours griefing one. Do you ever consider that there's an actual human behind that computer screen? A human who maybe has any other number of things going on in their lives and you're just being terrible to them for no reason (other than it's funny, to you)? How do you reconcile that?
Consider this scenario:
You work around 60 hours a week at a dead end job for little more than minimum wage. You struggle to pay the rent and all the other bills. No girlfriend. Few IRL friends (can't afford to go out to bars). You barely get laid. But you know what, after long days of having a terrible boss yell at you, it's nice to come home and work on a new character you have in this game called World of Warcraft. Low and behold, you log in...and start getting ganked by someone a much higher level than you. You give up...you get camped over and over again. You can't even level because this guy keeps killing you. After a while, you just give up and log off in disgust. Totally defeated. Life sucks, and now you can't even play a video game in piece. You then kill yourself.
Haha okay obviously I'm being dramatic. But my point is, life is so shitty for so many people, why try to make something they're trying to escape to (WoW) even shittier? I mean...it doesn't even help you get better at the game (you don't even get honor if they are low enough), it has no value other than griefing someone. I just don't understand the mentality.
And before people say "PvP'd on a PvP server" -- I just think that's a copout. Getting attacked while I'm doing a daily or something is one thing. But a higher level player spending hours ganking a lower level player just isn't the same thing.
I love you Necra, but I really do struggle to understand that mentality. It just seems like a lack of empathy, because it's behind a keyboard and you won't have to see that person you are working so hard to upset for no reason other than your personal glee.
All good points and I've thought about them often. I've spared more people than I like to admit. Normally, I just kill someone once or twice and move on. If they're worth camping they'll find me and engage again at which point I'll beat them into submission.
To answer your question, it's a PvP server. The enjoyment is in killing another player. I feel no (Less) remorse for killing someone over and over again because it's not hard to get away. Getting camped really only happens to bad players. There's always a way out. If they can't figure it out well, then sucks to be them, maybe they should go to a PvE server or stay in safe zones.
That being said, I normally only targeted people with BoAs (so I know they have a main) and/or people in large guilds (so I know they have backup). Let's look at a screenshot, there were plenty more, of where I trolled one of the core raiders from Tasty Beverage into deleting his BiS char in a fit of rage (worth it)
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and for the hell of it, here's a few other screen caps that I found while looking for that one that are semi-related.
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tldr: I for the most part agree with you. My enjoyment in PvP comes from the interaction with other people, not so much the "Higher Skill Level of Combat". Sometimes, killing a lowbie is harder than killing max level chars. Hell, I was camping level 90s at 85. Perhaps my repeated ganking spurs a few of these lowbies into getting good or at least seeking to improve, maybe with hope for revenge and if it plays out like that, and they kill me when they reach max level, I'm proud of them. It's happened a few times and I've actually become friends with those people.
I have to go to work D:
This post is very unorganized and scattered but fuck it. I'll be back later lol
Here's a gif.
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