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Immigrants, no, but you said "illegal", meaning the ones who have broken the law in their host country. Whatever the punishment is, they can't complain about the implementation of it. There are avenues of legal entry into virtually all countries. I see no reason why these people don't utilize them unless they know the host would not allow them entry for some reason.

Boredalt - 80 Dwarf Priest - Dissension

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brj2UkUPjCI

This seems to fit here..

The highlight of this thread was Eturnal suggesting a demilitarized zone between the USA and Mexico in the Korean style, complete with landmines and a permanent military presence.

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http://www.xtra.ca/public/National/Gay_Iranian_faces_deportation-8674.aspx


Seemed like a good place for this story.

Boredalt - 80 Dwarf Priest - Dissension

The law is stupid and all it will do is promote racial profiling and increase animosity between citizens and law enforcement.

Illegal immigration is a problem, this law is not a solution, it's a cop out by politicians to say "hey we're doings something, elect us."

Also, saying that it's ok because the Government isn't doing anything is bad logic, you're supposed to demand action not take the law into your own hands, pretty sure there's laws against that.

I thought the best part was when someone said the US border was "heavily fortified."

and no, people don't get murdered over drugs.




http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8240213.stm

I meant the Texas/Mexico border, if that wasn't clear.

I am pretty aware that people die over drugs each and every day.

Aside from that, in retrospect I realize I should have put some smilies or something because I wasn't entirely srs. Last thing I wanna do is talk to American's about American security issues. I'm dumb and all...but not that dumb.

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So you don't actually have any evidence apart from a couple of anecdotes. Acknowledged. I suppose you didn't consider that those 1.4 million people might also purchase goods and services from Americans, or work in jobs making or doing things that benefit Americans?



Mostly legal immigrants, I think. The Canadian immigration system now makes it almost impossible for manual labourers to come here except on a poorly run guest worker program, and not enough citizens want the jobs, so illegals have to fill the gap.



Funnily enough, Ciudad Juarez is across the border from El Paso, which is the 3rd safest large city in the US according to the last statistics I saw. Why the sudden concern for Mexicans?

No Hispanics are just making the biggest deal about it because they can. Ther are tons of other illegals in this country I know this, however the law does not single out the hispanics they just feel it does because they are the majority. And in that area it might be stronger to sniff them out as you go. I am sure that the cops will equally pick on the middlle easterners as well.

nah... Ok.

Boredalt - 80 Dwarf Priest - Dissension

Should've kept it. It was said well.

im sorry, i don't normally jump into debates of this nature, but i'm going to have to heavily disagree with you there. i was stationed at Ft. Bliss, which is in El Paso, and it was easily the most dangerous place i've ever been. (i grew up in downtown chicago). i went to nursing school there, and from the hospital, which was built on an elevated south facing side of Transmountain, you could see right over the river and the border. every night we heard automatic gunfire, and you could see the flashes in the distance. every night we also received patient overflow from their hospitals. William Beaumont Army Medical Center is where military doctors train to treat gunshot wounds before getting deployed. the entire base and hospital grounds were frequently closed off, no one in or out, because of cartel violence spilling into the streets. there is a strict "No border crossing" regulation for military stationed there. lots of people were heading over there to see a donkey show or buy some cheap xanax and were never heard from again. only the northern side of Transmountain is safe, and that is only a small part of el paso. don't mean to piss in your cheerios or anything, but that place is DEFINITELY not one of the safest cities in america.

Link the statisitcs imo.

http://www.morganquitno.com/cit07pop.htm#500,000+

The claim is also made by the El Paso police department
http://www.ci.el-paso.tx.us/police/

This article isn't specific to El Paso, but its mayor says "The perception is the border is dangerous. The reality is that it is not,"
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... =102256207